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I'm reminded of almost every image you see of Trump interacting with world leaders. Merkel A: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/angela-merkel-

I'm reminded of almost every image you see of Trump interacting with world leaders. Merkel A: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/angela-merkel-donald-trump-photo-viral-g7-shinzo-abe-a8392186.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/angela-mer... Merkel B: https://www.thenational.ae/world/the-americas/donald-trump-slams-canadian-prime-minister-justin-trudeau-as-g7-summit-ends-in-farce-1.738392 https://www.thenational.ae/world/the-americas/donald-trump-s... Trudeau A: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/07/01/donald-trumps-very-affectionate-tweet-about-justin-trudeau-explained/?utm_term=.56fc14a67294 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/07/01... Trudeau B: https://ottawacitizen.com/news/politics/watch-live-justin-trudeau-and-donald-trump-hold-a-joint-news-conference https://ottawacitizen.com/news/politics/watch-live-justin-tr... When these are used to manipulate as they so often are, I consider these lies just the same as if they were printed words. Imagine your friend sent you a photo like this with the implication that the people were being aggressive somehow, but it turned out to be an instantaneous facial expression in a completely different moment. Such choice of image is a way for the media to lie with some veneer of deniability, and they do it every chance they get. It's even worse on Twitter. And don't remind me of the images of the Kavanaugh hearing...

frabbit 8y ago
Those are very good examples of how choosing from among(what must now with digital cameras tens or hundreds of ) images can result in very different perceptions of what an event truly was.
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- ianmcgowan 8y ago
  Meta: can we ever know what "an" event truly was? Or are there as many events as there are people there? This whole thread reminds me of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talking_It_Over https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talking_It_Over) which goes over the same events from three different perspectives. There's a rich tradition of trying to figure this out through art...
  - CamperBob2 8y ago
    Meta: can we ever know what "an" event truly was? Einstein put an end to that comforting notion a hundred years ago when he showed that simultaneity (and thus causality) are meaningful only to observers in the same inertial reference frame. How often does that apply in politics?
corodra 8y ago
Whoa! That's nuts to see side by side. It's one thing to know the media does this. It's totally different to actually see it of the same event. Really helps them frame the narrative in their own spin. These are beautiful examples. Thanks. Though, seriously the first one looks like a heated debate on what pizzas to order. Macron: "Can we just order the damn pizzas?" Merkel: "We're not getting just pepperoni. We're getting something with variety." Bolton: "I like anchovies." Trump: "I'm not paying if there's going to be vegetables on it and you can't make me." Bolton: "I like anchovies." Abe: "I agree with the yankee. Pepperoni or we're getting tacos." Bolton: "I like anchovies." That dude to Abe's right. Really trying for that modeling career. I like my narrative better.
- jlawson 8y ago
  You need to get into political satire writing :)
CamperBob2 8y ago
Also reminds me of the widely-circulated photo from the recent G-20 summit, depicting a forlorn Donald Trump watching Putin and bin Salman from the background as they fist-bump each other enthusiastically like old pals. It was actually an excerpt from a video of Trump bumbling randomly around in the back of the room, sporting his increasingly-common thousand yard stare. There's no indication that he even recognized Putin and MbS, but since digital video is now good enough to supply publication-quality still frames, it was possible to extract a single frame that supported the desired narrative perfectly. Interesting example of a phenomenon we'll definitely be seeing more of.

frabbit 8y ago

Those are very good examples of how choosing from among(what must now with digital cameras tens or hundreds of ) images can result in very different perceptions of what an event truly was.

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ianmcgowan 8y ago
Meta: can we ever know what "an" event truly was? Or are there as many events as there are people there? This whole thread reminds me of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talking_It_Over https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talking_It_Over) which goes over the same events from three different perspectives. There's a rich tradition of trying to figure this out through art...
- CamperBob2 8y ago
  Meta: can we ever know what "an" event truly was? Einstein put an end to that comforting notion a hundred years ago when he showed that simultaneity (and thus causality) are meaningful only to observers in the same inertial reference frame. How often does that apply in politics?

corodra 8y ago

Whoa! That's nuts to see side by side. It's one thing to know the media does this. It's totally different to actually see it of the same event. Really helps them frame the narrative in their own spin. These are beautiful examples. Thanks. Though, seriously the first one looks like a heated debate on what pizzas to order. Macron: "Can we just order the damn pizzas?" Merkel: "We're not getting just pepperoni. We're getting something with variety." Bolton: "I like anchovies." Trump: "I'm not paying if there's going to be vegetables on it and you can't make me." Bolton: "I like anchovies." Abe: "I agree with the yankee. Pepperoni or we're getting tacos." Bolton: "I like anchovies." That dude to Abe's right. Really trying for that modeling career. I like my narrative better.

jlawson 8y ago
You need to get into political satire writing :)

CamperBob2 8y ago

Also reminds me of the widely-circulated photo from the recent G-20 summit, depicting a forlorn Donald Trump watching Putin and bin Salman from the background as they fist-bump each other enthusiastically like old pals. It was actually an excerpt from a video of Trump bumbling randomly around in the back of the room, sporting his increasingly-common thousand yard stare. There's no indication that he even recognized Putin and MbS, but since digital video is now good enough to supply publication-quality still frames, it was possible to extract a single frame that supported the desired narrative perfectly. Interesting example of a phenomenon we'll definitely be seeing more of.