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What did I just read??? I can't help but feel stupider for reading it. This is complete garbage. Some relationship to the internal frequencies of the brain,
by flossball 8y ago
What did I just read???
I can't help but feel stupider for reading it.
This is complete garbage. Some relationship to the internal frequencies of the brain, ie. its various analog clock tree mechanisms means that because all matter is based on subatomic vibrations rocks and atoms have a degree of consciousness too?
Wow, my laptop running at 2.2GHz(and various other frequencies) must be a supreme being.
Yes, obviously a clock tree is important to sync various neurons together efficiently and where ever there are conflicts, ticks will be lost or (whatever the thought real equivalent is). The more sync'ed the more complex the brain obviously, but whether that is 'consciousness' or just efficiency... or anything else? This writer obviously has no clue. At least they didn't say the brain is a quantum computer because of vibrations.
- whatshisface 8y ago>The more sync'ed the more complex the brain obviously That may not even be true. Octupus brains are constrained to a toroidal geometry because they eat through the doughnut hole. Apparently despite their very large brain sizes and advanced problem solving skills the elements are fairly independent.
- agumonkey 8y agoIt's only a supreme being when surrounded by 2.2GHz laptops in sync
- csomar 8y agoThe hypothesis is worthy of pursuit, in my opinion. The article is not well written, however. If you say matter can't have consciousness then how does your brain have one? Your brain in made of matter. There are definitively varying degrees of consciousness and self-awareness. I don't think that someone who is an 1. atheist 2. knows that consciousness is made by the brain neurons or some processes; has the same self-awareness as someone who is 1. religious and 2. thinks he has a soul. Look at living creature. Look at a cell. It is a living thing but it is made by much fewer atoms and molecules than the human body. It is interesting to watch what we consider "dead matter" being alive. They are both matter and atoms at the end of day. Is a cell trying to survive its environment inside the human body conscious? Is a human trying to survive its environment inside the country/system conscious? Is a country trying to survive its environment inside planet earth conscious?
- _Schizotypy 8y agoYour brain has consciousness because of the networking of the neurons that make it up
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 8y agoHow many neurons does it take to make a consciousness? The thing about consciousness is that you can't really define it. You know you have it because you experience it. You assume that other humans have it because they are like you. You might further assume that certain other beings have it because they are also like you in many ways (though you'd likely disagree with the idea that theirs is as meaningful as yours). But you can't prove any of it. You can only say that certain things react to certain stimuli in certain ways, which describes everything in the universe. Is it really that much of a stretch, then, to suggest that perhaps everything in the universe has some form of awareness, some experience of things, albeit probably too different from our own to comprehend?
- _Schizotypy 8y agoWe don't know that yet, but there isn't functionality without the network
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 8y agoHow much functionality is required? Where is the line? Human beings can live and interact with the world with fully half of their brain removed. Are they conscious? What about Asplanchna brightwellii and its 200 or so neurons? Here's my point: there is literally no measurement you can perform that will help you draw this line, because the experience of consciousness is entirely subjective.
- jnurmine 8y agoPerhaps consciousness is not a crisp yes/no choice but a gradient... Dolphins are conscious but to a degree less than humans, likewise mice less than dolphins and so on.
- ghthor 8y agoWhat is your definition of consciousness? Mine is the ability to see a probabilistic future and maybe make decisions about that future. Under that defination all matter is conscience due to its quantum probalistic nature.
- snikeris 8y agoHaving an experience of the color red, for example. I think I'd call what you're describing executive functioning. I'd imagine one could experience things w/out having any notion about the future, or even an ability to make decisions.
- _Schizotypy 8y agoHow do you define "experience"?
- snikeris 8y agoWhat happens to you when you're conscious or dreaming.