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Major problem i had with bitcoin is that no subscription management product supports it. Neither servicebot, nor killbill (the plugin doesn't work anymore) So

Major problem i had with bitcoin is that no subscription management product supports it. Neither servicebot, nor killbill (the plugin doesn't work anymore) So how can i add bitcoin in SaaS products? There is no Opensource Subscription management product which supports most of the gateways including bitcoin. Customers request that they want to pay for our VPN SaaS through bitcoin but we didn't find anything like chargify, recurly, chargebee supporting bitcoin. When accepting bitcoin is soo difficult, no idea how it will grow. I don't know why SaaS developers don't gangup and roll out Opensource self hosted chargebee like subscription management product with ability to support any gateway. Then we'll not have to reinvent the wheel again and again while creating any new SaaS products. We can solve it once for all. It seems everyone implements their own billing flow which is often difficult for user to understand as every product uses it's own billing flow. Why not a unified flow? Some developers simply add stripe and are done with it. I think this is leaving 20% on the money on the table which comes through other payment methods like cryptos, wire transfer (manual), skrill, western union, yandexpay, webmoney which is very popular in Soviet block countries.

wmf 8y ago
Doing subscriptions with Bitcoin is hard because it's push based. You can't authorize once and then pull from the customer's wallet monthly.
reidjs 8y ago
This would be a good product for an exchange like coinbase, but they’re making so much money I don’t think it really matters what they do.
pamonrails 8y ago
@pierre from Kill Bill here. Back in the days, we tried very hard to have a good native integration with the blockchain for recurring payments (see the "Extension for BIP-0070 to support recurring payments" thread on the bitcoin-dev list: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2014-February/004295.html https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2014...). It didn't go anywhere unfortunately, so we added support for the major providers at the time (Bitpay, Coinbase, ... see http://killbill.io/blog/coinbase-integration-experiment/ http://killbill.io/blog/coinbase-integration-experiment/). In the end though, as the interest for Bitcoin as a currency decreased, none of our users were interested to offer Bitcoin as a payment mechanism anymore. We've since put this experiment on the backburner. Happy to revisit whenever there is demand for it. Regarding other non traditional payments methods (wire transfers, Boleto, etc.), this is absolutely supported and heavily used outside of NA.

wmf 8y ago

Doing subscriptions with Bitcoin is hard because it's push based. You can't authorize once and then pull from the customer's wallet monthly.

reidjs 8y ago

This would be a good product for an exchange like coinbase, but they’re making so much money I don’t think it really matters what they do.

pamonrails 8y ago

@pierre from Kill Bill here. Back in the days, we tried very hard to have a good native integration with the blockchain for recurring payments (see the "Extension for BIP-0070 to support recurring payments" thread on the bitcoin-dev list: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2014-February/004295.html https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2014...). It didn't go anywhere unfortunately, so we added support for the major providers at the time (Bitpay, Coinbase, ... see http://killbill.io/blog/coinbase-integration-experiment/ http://killbill.io/blog/coinbase-integration-experiment/). In the end though, as the interest for Bitcoin as a currency decreased, none of our users were interested to offer Bitcoin as a payment mechanism anymore. We've since put this experiment on the backburner. Happy to revisit whenever there is demand for it. Regarding other non traditional payments methods (wire transfers, Boleto, etc.), this is absolutely supported and heavily used outside of NA.