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Firefox is a way better experience than Chrome these days. Google, you constantly add new features that nobody wants, and furthermore, make it WAY more difficul

Firefox is a way better experience than Chrome these days. Google, you constantly add new features that nobody wants, and furthermore, make it WAY more difficult for those of us who care about privacy to turn your tracking BS off. Google Chrome can die in a fire as far as I'm concerned.

adontz 8y ago
Firefox added Pocket, and kind of nobody wanted it. So it happens in FF too.
- ghostly_s 8y ago
  Plenty of people don't want it, but Pocket is actually quite popular. It's an essential part of my browsing experience.
  - deleted 8y ago
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- vrazj 8y ago
  And I don't think anybody wants the ads they have added to the home page.
  - sha666sum 8y ago
    Eh, at least it only takes a few clicks to remove them.
    - yarrel 8y ago
      Then it only taking a few clicks to install them would be just as good.
    - sazfedjhrgnukc 8y ago
      Eh, what does that say about Mozilla wanting to be the "good guy"? If they want to be good then they have to constantly be held accountable to the high standard they like people to think that they are at. They don't get their cake and eat it too.
- m-p-3 8y ago
  I have a Kobo eReader with Pocket integration and I actually use it quite often.
  - balladeer 8y ago
    Well, on that tune I am sure there are users who’d love Fb and Tw integrations; and deep ones at that.
    - teddyfrozevelt 8y ago
      Mozilla doesn't own Facebook or Twitter, and can't control what they do with user data.
- npunt 8y ago
  To be honest, I actually really like that they added Pocket, and I don't think it takes anything away from FF.
  - balladeer 8y ago
    It took away credibility. A lot of it. It also alienated too many “almost evangelist” users (like me) who had converted countless users from other browsers in high school and college. Many of them haven’t been able to reconcile with what might seem a tiny change now. Also the jarring and bizarre way Mozilla pretty much stonewalled everyone on it who wanted it to be discussed. I don’t know it would make sense to you, or most, but it felt like a breach of trust and seeing it is still baked into the browser itself (yes, they bought it; yes, you can turn it “off”) and that you can’t “completely remove” it, I don’t “that part” has changed. Besides the separate standalone add-on was a lot more useful and I was a full time user until that debacle when I moved to Safari (and Pinboard).
    - thiagowfx 8y ago
      How is your experience with Pinboard?
      - tlavoie 8y ago
        Not the parent, but it works well for me.
    - npunt 8y ago
      Purely from a feature development perspective, I guess I don't see how adding a read-it-later / bookmarking feature would generate so much consternation. Functionally its roughly equivalent to Reading List + Bookmarks on Safari, with some delicious-like aggregate smarts. Would it have been better to have built it internally instead of through acquisition? I admit I'm unfamiliar with the inside baseball on it's integration, but breach of trust sounds pretty drastic. My read (as an uninformed outsider) is that they probably acquired Pocket for a song, it filled a gap in the product offering, and it offers the potential of a future optional revenue stream that aligns well with the web as a document reading medium (subscription). There's all sorts of internal browser features you can't 'completely remove'. How is bookmarking different?
- baby 8y ago
  Pocket by default is one of the best feature of Firefox, for everyone. Try to use it for week.
  - bayindirh 8y ago
    I'm one of Pocket's top 1% readers, but not everyone likes it, and doesn't have to.
ethanpil 8y ago
The only thing I miss in Firefox is the ability to Chromecast directly. It's useful.
- nathan_f77 8y ago
  I agree, it's incredibly useful. I did a lot of research on this a few days ago, because I wanted to see if it might be possible to raise some funding to work on it. I found lots of abandoned open source projects. I'm sure there's a lot of Firefox users who would appreciate a Chromecast add-on, but there's a lot of political and economic reasons why it's probably not going to happen. In the end I decided that it was just easier to switch back to Chrome instead of going down that road, and I'm so happy I can cast videos/tabs to my TV.

adontz 8y ago

Firefox added Pocket, and kind of nobody wanted it. So it happens in FF too.

ghostly_s 8y ago
Plenty of people don't want it, but Pocket is actually quite popular. It's an essential part of my browsing experience.
- deleted 8y ago
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vrazj 8y ago
And I don't think anybody wants the ads they have added to the home page.
- sha666sum 8y ago
  Eh, at least it only takes a few clicks to remove them.
  - yarrel 8y ago
    Then it only taking a few clicks to install them would be just as good.
  - sazfedjhrgnukc 8y ago
    Eh, what does that say about Mozilla wanting to be the "good guy"? If they want to be good then they have to constantly be held accountable to the high standard they like people to think that they are at. They don't get their cake and eat it too.
m-p-3 8y ago
I have a Kobo eReader with Pocket integration and I actually use it quite often.
- balladeer 8y ago
  Well, on that tune I am sure there are users who’d love Fb and Tw integrations; and deep ones at that.
  - teddyfrozevelt 8y ago
    Mozilla doesn't own Facebook or Twitter, and can't control what they do with user data.
npunt 8y ago
To be honest, I actually really like that they added Pocket, and I don't think it takes anything away from FF.
- balladeer 8y ago
  It took away credibility. A lot of it. It also alienated too many “almost evangelist” users (like me) who had converted countless users from other browsers in high school and college. Many of them haven’t been able to reconcile with what might seem a tiny change now. Also the jarring and bizarre way Mozilla pretty much stonewalled everyone on it who wanted it to be discussed. I don’t know it would make sense to you, or most, but it felt like a breach of trust and seeing it is still baked into the browser itself (yes, they bought it; yes, you can turn it “off”) and that you can’t “completely remove” it, I don’t “that part” has changed. Besides the separate standalone add-on was a lot more useful and I was a full time user until that debacle when I moved to Safari (and Pinboard).
  - thiagowfx 8y ago
    How is your experience with Pinboard?
    - tlavoie 8y ago
      Not the parent, but it works well for me.
  - npunt 8y ago
    Purely from a feature development perspective, I guess I don't see how adding a read-it-later / bookmarking feature would generate so much consternation. Functionally its roughly equivalent to Reading List + Bookmarks on Safari, with some delicious-like aggregate smarts. Would it have been better to have built it internally instead of through acquisition? I admit I'm unfamiliar with the inside baseball on it's integration, but breach of trust sounds pretty drastic. My read (as an uninformed outsider) is that they probably acquired Pocket for a song, it filled a gap in the product offering, and it offers the potential of a future optional revenue stream that aligns well with the web as a document reading medium (subscription). There's all sorts of internal browser features you can't 'completely remove'. How is bookmarking different?
baby 8y ago
Pocket by default is one of the best feature of Firefox, for everyone. Try to use it for week.
- bayindirh 8y ago
  I'm one of Pocket's top 1% readers, but not everyone likes it, and doesn't have to.

ethanpil 8y ago

The only thing I miss in Firefox is the ability to Chromecast directly. It's useful.

nathan_f77 8y ago
I agree, it's incredibly useful. I did a lot of research on this a few days ago, because I wanted to see if it might be possible to raise some funding to work on it. I found lots of abandoned open source projects. I'm sure there's a lot of Firefox users who would appreciate a Chromecast add-on, but there's a lot of political and economic reasons why it's probably not going to happen. In the end I decided that it was just easier to switch back to Chrome instead of going down that road, and I'm so happy I can cast videos/tabs to my TV.