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Google's guidance for this stuff was always in the form of "don't leave a trail", not "don't do it in the first place". Sketchy stuff comes up on a list? "Let
by rachelbythebay 8y ago
Google's guidance for this stuff was always in the form of "don't leave a trail", not "don't do it in the first place".
Sketchy stuff comes up on a list? "Let's take it offline", not "no, stop this now".
That kind of thing. It was systemic.
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- arthurcolle 8y agoThis verbiage is common at most large multinats, from my own experience and from what's been relayed to me by peers.
- WalterGR 8y agoI never heard it at Microsoft, nor was there training about avoiding paper trails.
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- freeone3000 8y agoI was inducted within the last three years, and I remember specific recommendations by CELA to have a non-content-based email deletion policy and to never insinuate anticompetitive behavior in an email or on teams. The implication was "don't do anticompetitive behavior, we don't need to", but the warnings were given.
- nubbins 8y agoWhat they probably don’t realize is the record of saying “lets take it off line” ie requesting change in communication media is suspicious in itself and much easier for humans or algorithms to find in discovery than whatever complicated scheme they were going to discuss that wouldn’t give good target keywords.
- skybrian 8y agoI don't know, it seems like it's probably better to take it offline than to have a whole argument about something that shouldn't be talked about in the first place. If you keep talking, they are just going to put more dubious speculation on the record. Shutting this down is just good management.
- radicaldreamer 8y agoA lot of laws are written so that you have to prove intent (for good reason) and often let’s take this offline doesn’t satisfy that requirement. There are plenty of reasons to discuss something in another forum without any intent to break any laws.
- nostrademons 8y agoDepends who you were discussing it with. In general, if it was a manager, executive, or lawyer hired post-IPO, it'd be "Let's take this offline." Pre-IPO engineer, SRE, or UX designer of any tenure and it'd be "We shouldn't be doing this."
- hnuser1234 8y agoA growing company is mutually exclusive with a company that tells their employees to "not create things that will crush or destroy competitors in the first place."