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So they took one business's confidential documents from another person travelling in their country who had them as part of discovery for another lawsuit (that a
by kodablah 8y ago
So they took one business's confidential documents from another person travelling in their country who had them as part of discovery for another lawsuit (that a CA judge asked to remain hidden)? And then they publish them for everyone? And these are the "bombshells"? Seems like normal (albeit arguably immoral) big business and would have expected worse from an internal email cache of such size.
Obviously FB has nobody on their "side" but themselves, but I for damn sure am not on the UK government's side here. Comes off as look-what-we-can-do strong-arm tactics when you don't show up when they want you to. And the publishing appears to be just gloating. Shameful and I would hope others see it this way regardless of their feelings towards FB. Sadly, the less-principled masses care more about who it's targeted towards than the actions.
I wonder if the CA judge will formally censure the UK government or encourage others with sealed documents in hand to not travel to places like this. Cry "exceptional circumstances" all you want, but we declare non-guilt on harsher crimes for much less egregious discovery violations than this.
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- fhbdukfrh 8y agoYou may not like the process but it is completely legal for the MP to compel the third party to turn over this information and then use parliamentary privilege to publish it. If FB has sent Zuck to talk to parliament in the first place this would not have happened. Instead he told them to get lost, and what are you gonna do about it? Well, this is it. Not sure what you mean about a formal censure. I'm not familiar with any legal mechanism for a state judge to formally object to foreign parliamentary procedure; how would that even work between a republic and a commonwealth?
- ceejayoz 8y agoI don't think anyone's alleging the UK did anything wrong. Six4Three's CEO is possibly on iffy legal grounds taking a bunch of sealed docs overseas unnecessarily and then handing them over, though.
- clubm8 8y ago>Six4Three's CEO is possibly on iffy legal grounds taking a bunch of sealed docs overseas unnecessarily and then handing them over, though. Yeah, this is weird. I've taken confidential documents overseas, but they were either on an encrypted device, or stored securely in our cloud and pulled down over a VPN after I arrived. Not printed out in my luggage. I'd expect to be fired if I did that and a government got access at customs.
- sjg007 8y agoWell technically they were on Dropbox.
- kodablah 8y ago> You may not like the process but it is completely legal I don't. Just like I don't like some things FB does that are legal. > Not sure what you mean about a formal censure I just meant denouncing the action as part of a written statement during findings or other rulings on discovery here. I didn't mean to imply there is a legal mechanism that I am aware of. I would at least expect a judge requiring a seal of material in similar cases henceforth to say that it cannot be transferred to anyone on English soil (e.g. an assisting legal team or expert witness) for fear of similar occurrence. At the very least, if I was defense counsel I would ask the judge to make such a restriction while clutching this precedent of taking discovery documents then publishing them to the world.
- redial 8y agoThe irony is just too much. Are you really complaining about a breach of 'trust' when data in possession of one entity ended up in the hands of another without the subject's permission? In a thread about Facebook?
- kodablah 8y ago>> Sadly, the less-principled [...] care more about who it's targeted towards than the actions. > about Facebook :-(
- redial 8y agoLive by the sword...cry injustice of the 'less-principled' when everybody else gets swords. But everyone is right when quoting one's self.
- clubm8 8y agoI "laughed out loud" at the idea Facebook thinks having things revealed during discovery that are embarrassing is new or some uniquely targeted kind of bullying directed specifically at them. I think FB is so use to pumping money into DC lobbying that encountering a functional government investigation shocked and awed them.
- ck425 8y agoI see nothing wrong. They asked for this information and were refused it or given vague answers. So they use their legal system to obtain it.