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Before we assume that this is "a high stakes game of geopolitical poker to divert from Mueller", as the author suggests, let's see exactly what a C-level execut

Before we assume that this is "a high stakes game of geopolitical poker to divert from Mueller", as the author suggests, let's see exactly what a C-level executive of one of the world's largest tech companies allegedly offered to the Iranians and for what purpose. Hypothetically, for all we know she was offering to use the company to launder money made from selling nuclear weapons tech on the black market. It's not only possible, but likely, that this arrest was the result of months of covert work put in by DOJ and State Department officials, and is the result of a legitimate investigation.

fhood 8y ago
I agree, skepticism is important, but I am willing to believe that this arrest was for basically the reasons stated, and I think to assume that it is completely otherwise would be overly cynical. That said, I would not be terribly surprised if the Chinese felt forced to retaliate in some way.
- creaghpatr 8y ago
  You need to read "The Chickenshit Club" which details the long, agonizing process the DOJ goes through before making an indictment (and subsequent arrest) because you seem to be laboring under the delusion that one person or persons decided "oh let's just arrest someone important from China" Edit: I want to add that China is an amazing place everyone should visit at least once in their life and I hope the author does not let his fanatical political theories get in the way of what could be a life-expanding trip.
  - fhood 8y ago
    Hang on, I meant that I believe that the DOJ was acting in good faith.
  - clubm8 8y ago
    >I want to add that China is an amazing place everyone should visit at least once in their life and I hope the author does not let his fanatical political theories get in the way of what could be a life-expanding trip. Well, having to buy a cheap chromebook I'd throw away/sell after the trip is a bit of a drag. Not being able to bring my mobile is a drag. Worrying that my public history of being pro-democracy, pro-free speech, and pro-Tor may result in harassment is a draq. I had a lovely time when I went to Tokyo, without any visas, special electronics, or other considerations beyond the usual "don't leave your phone in the hotel room untattended" and "use a VPN" type opsec I always use traveling. Why should I give my tourism dollars to a state that will at best tolerate and at worst actively harass me?
clubm8 8y ago
>Before we assume that this is "a high stakes game of geopolitical poker to divert from Mueller", as the author suggests, let's see exactly what a C-level executive of one of the world's largest tech companies allegedly offered to the Iranians and for what purpose. Hypothetically, for all we know she was offering to use the company to launder money made from selling nuclear weapons tech on the black marke Unless she offered it in the United States why should she be extradited here? I can get behind waiting for her to leave China, who presumably would look the other way. But why can't the Canadians prosecute her? This idea that people who did not enter the United States can be subjected to it's laws and shipped off to it's prisons (with their abysmal human rights record) is scary. And I say this as someone who's extremely critical of China and thinks we're spending too much time worrying about dank russian memes while China buzzes our aircraft in the South China Sea and imprisons millions of Uyghurs.

fhood 8y ago

I agree, skepticism is important, but I am willing to believe that this arrest was for basically the reasons stated, and I think to assume that it is completely otherwise would be overly cynical. That said, I would not be terribly surprised if the Chinese felt forced to retaliate in some way.

creaghpatr 8y ago
You need to read "The Chickenshit Club" which details the long, agonizing process the DOJ goes through before making an indictment (and subsequent arrest) because you seem to be laboring under the delusion that one person or persons decided "oh let's just arrest someone important from China" Edit: I want to add that China is an amazing place everyone should visit at least once in their life and I hope the author does not let his fanatical political theories get in the way of what could be a life-expanding trip.
- fhood 8y ago
  Hang on, I meant that I believe that the DOJ was acting in good faith.
- clubm8 8y ago
  >I want to add that China is an amazing place everyone should visit at least once in their life and I hope the author does not let his fanatical political theories get in the way of what could be a life-expanding trip. Well, having to buy a cheap chromebook I'd throw away/sell after the trip is a bit of a drag. Not being able to bring my mobile is a drag. Worrying that my public history of being pro-democracy, pro-free speech, and pro-Tor may result in harassment is a draq. I had a lovely time when I went to Tokyo, without any visas, special electronics, or other considerations beyond the usual "don't leave your phone in the hotel room untattended" and "use a VPN" type opsec I always use traveling. Why should I give my tourism dollars to a state that will at best tolerate and at worst actively harass me?

clubm8 8y ago

>Before we assume that this is "a high stakes game of geopolitical poker to divert from Mueller", as the author suggests, let's see exactly what a C-level executive of one of the world's largest tech companies allegedly offered to the Iranians and for what purpose. Hypothetically, for all we know she was offering to use the company to launder money made from selling nuclear weapons tech on the black marke Unless she offered it in the United States why should she be extradited here? I can get behind waiting for her to leave China, who presumably would look the other way. But why can't the Canadians prosecute her? This idea that people who did not enter the United States can be subjected to it's laws and shipped off to it's prisons (with their abysmal human rights record) is scary. And I say this as someone who's extremely critical of China and thinks we're spending too much time worrying about dank russian memes while China buzzes our aircraft in the South China Sea and imprisons millions of Uyghurs.