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Recently we had a situation in New Zealand where a large telco announced Huawei would provide their 5G kit for the entire network, then days later had to retrac

by berti 8y ago

Recently we had a situation in New Zealand where a large telco announced Huawei would provide their 5G kit for the entire network, then days later had to retract because the national intelligence agency barred the deal [0]. [0] https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12167798 https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&...

dis-sys 8y ago
Many are asking the same legitimate question - what is the point keeping the free trade agreement with NZ when Chinese products are being treated like that.
- zaphirplane 8y ago
  Who are the many? One side says the equipment isn’t secure, that isn’t related to free trade. I suppose a lot of countries selling asbestos and aerosol are upset
  - dis-sys 8y ago
    > Who are the many? are you assuming that there are not many hardliners in China? > One side says the equipment isn’t secure after so many years with so many Huawei equipments used in the west, when all kinds of security experts and law enforcements officials all have 24/7 access to those devices, when the state of the art analysis tools and procedures are all available to them, any actual backdoor intentionally placed by Huawei got busted?
    - zaphirplane 8y ago
      You are making the assumption that a backdoor needs to be active now, not a sleeper backdoor that is a activated on a trigger What about future firmware upgrade or hardware replacement that isn’t vetted today. What triggered all this was BT found the equipment was too chatty
      - dis-sys 8y ago
        > What about future firmware upgrade or hardware replacement that isn’t vetted today. same question for all Cisco/IBM/HP/Apple devices used in countries not that close to the US/UK. should they use the same cheap excuses to ban all those devices? or maybe the standard is simply different here? > What triggered all this was BT found the equipment was too chatty please define the term chatty and what is the acceptable threshold? or maybe get the best expert to look into it and present the smoking gun evidence to the world to actually prove something with solid evidence? before that, what you mentioned above is nothing but fear mongering.

by berti 8y ago

dis-sys 8y ago

Many are asking the same legitimate question - what is the point keeping the free trade agreement with NZ when Chinese products are being treated like that.

zaphirplane 8y ago
Who are the many? One side says the equipment isn’t secure, that isn’t related to free trade. I suppose a lot of countries selling asbestos and aerosol are upset
- dis-sys 8y ago
  > Who are the many? are you assuming that there are not many hardliners in China? > One side says the equipment isn’t secure after so many years with so many Huawei equipments used in the west, when all kinds of security experts and law enforcements officials all have 24/7 access to those devices, when the state of the art analysis tools and procedures are all available to them, any actual backdoor intentionally placed by Huawei got busted?
  - zaphirplane 8y ago
    You are making the assumption that a backdoor needs to be active now, not a sleeper backdoor that is a activated on a trigger What about future firmware upgrade or hardware replacement that isn’t vetted today. What triggered all this was BT found the equipment was too chatty
    - dis-sys 8y ago
      > What about future firmware upgrade or hardware replacement that isn’t vetted today. same question for all Cisco/IBM/HP/Apple devices used in countries not that close to the US/UK. should they use the same cheap excuses to ban all those devices? or maybe the standard is simply different here? > What triggered all this was BT found the equipment was too chatty please define the term chatty and what is the acceptable threshold? or maybe get the best expert to look into it and present the smoking gun evidence to the world to actually prove something with solid evidence? before that, what you mentioned above is nothing but fear mongering.