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When I was given an nca, it was on my first day and I was put in an empty room with the materials and told I can't take them from the room. I tell you, when you

When I was given an nca, it was on my first day and I was put in an empty room with the materials and told I can't take them from the room. I tell you, when you're needing the job to provide for your family, there isn't much you can do there. EDIT: fortunately, the company made a very niche product so it would be hard to argue anywhere was competing with them.

logfromblammo 8y ago
If you ever tell a judge that the company refused to let you negotiate terms, review the documents with professional legal counsel, or make a copy for your own reference, I'm sure that will go over well in court for the company trying to pretend that they represent contracts~ Then you can discuss whether you actually received anything of value specifically for signing any particular document. Smartass or not, if you are asked to sign anything that you are not allowed to show to a lawyer, the company is trying to abuse you, so feel free to mark it up a bit. Cross out single words that completely change the meaning of clauses that would put an obligation on you. Likely candidates are "not", "must", "shall", and "but". Write on it "This is not a contract" in small, hard-to-read print above your signature. Photograph it with your phone. Anonymously let other people know the company is doing this. Chances are, if you asked any question at all about non-competes during the interview, you never would have made it to the empty room where they showed theirs to you.
- grigjd3 8y ago
  I recognize the ideal there, but as stated, I had to support my family and I needed the income. I was not exactly in a place where I could argue. I realize this would likely get thrown out in court, but that people get put in this position at all is ridiculous.
  - logfromblammo 8y ago
    So many things already have to be going wrong for these to exist, that no single individual can possibly fight them. - The legislature has to not care about laborers. - The laborers can have no effective means of cartelizing amongst themselves. - The businesses have to employ people who think it is okay to require uncompensated non-competes. - They also have to be willing to sue ex-employees. - The court/arbitration system has to side with the employer in some of the cases.

logfromblammo 8y ago

If you ever tell a judge that the company refused to let you negotiate terms, review the documents with professional legal counsel, or make a copy for your own reference, I'm sure that will go over well in court for the company trying to pretend that they represent contracts~ Then you can discuss whether you actually received anything of value specifically for signing any particular document. Smartass or not, if you are asked to sign anything that you are not allowed to show to a lawyer, the company is trying to abuse you, so feel free to mark it up a bit. Cross out single words that completely change the meaning of clauses that would put an obligation on you. Likely candidates are "not", "must", "shall", and "but". Write on it "This is not a contract" in small, hard-to-read print above your signature. Photograph it with your phone. Anonymously let other people know the company is doing this. Chances are, if you asked any question at all about non-competes during the interview, you never would have made it to the empty room where they showed theirs to you.

grigjd3 8y ago
I recognize the ideal there, but as stated, I had to support my family and I needed the income. I was not exactly in a place where I could argue. I realize this would likely get thrown out in court, but that people get put in this position at all is ridiculous.
- logfromblammo 8y ago
  So many things already have to be going wrong for these to exist, that no single individual can possibly fight them. - The legislature has to not care about laborers. - The laborers can have no effective means of cartelizing amongst themselves. - The businesses have to employ people who think it is okay to require uncompensated non-competes. - They also have to be willing to sue ex-employees. - The court/arbitration system has to side with the employer in some of the cases.