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Edit: UK outage vendor confirmed as Ericsson: https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-o2telefonica-outages/ericsson-software-glitch-hits-mobile-services-in-britain-an

by setquk 8y ago

Edit: UK outage vendor confirmed as Ericsson: https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-o2telefonica-outages/ericsson-software-glitch-hits-mobile-services-in-britain-and-japan-idUKKBN1O51I2 https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-o2telefonica-outages/erics... Old paranoia filled post left below for reference. Thanks to saaaaaam for pointing the above link out. ---- There's something going on here, political or technical. O2/Telefonica subcontracted out a lot of their core to Huawei in 2012 [1]. Literally today, after their CFO was arrested in Canada [2], we've been hit with a massive telecoms outage here in the UK which has taken out data / SMS. O2 have stated that it's due to one of their technology provider's software [3]. Edit: Giffgaff (virtual provider) have also stated that this is a global problem which is even more worrying [4] I hope this is a coincidence. We've had data down here in UK from 0500 to 14:00 so far... China stock is falling, this happened, Huawei already have a somewhat iffy reputation and now BT is throwing out news about jumping ship from them suddenly. [1] http://telecoms.com/44197/huawei-wins-managed-services-deal-with-o2-uk/ http://telecoms.com/44197/huawei-wins-managed-services-deal-... [2] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46465768 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46465768 [3] https://twitter.com/O2/status/1070612301110226944 https://twitter.com/O2/status/1070612301110226944 [4] https://twitter.com/giffgaff/status/1070674248606339072 https://twitter.com/giffgaff/status/1070674248606339072

tossaccount123 8y ago
Huawei is rumored to have backdoored the African Union and Trump has been pushing other countries to get tough on China in general for stealing IP. This is essentially an extension of the trade war and valid fears that the Chinese government may be spying on you if you use Huewei
saaaaaam 8y ago
It’s being reported that the outage is probably related to Ericsson. “The company said that the problem stemed from a global software issue at a third-party supplier, understood to be Ericsson, which has also affected other mobile operators around the world.” https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/dec/06/o2-customers-unable-to-get-online https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/dec/06/o2-customer... Edit: also apparently confirmed by Ericsson themselves. https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-o2telefonica-outages/ericsson-software-glitch-hits-mobile-services-in-britain-and-japan-idUKKBN1O51I2 https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-o2telefonica-outages/erics...
- setquk 8y ago
  Interesting - thanks for posting!
  - saaaaaam 8y ago
    You’re welcome!
izacus 8y ago
The outage was apparently caused by Ericssons software: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/dec/06/o2-customers-unable-to-get-online https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/dec/06/o2-customer... - our domestic, trustworthy and great company. But it's sad to see that Chinese scaremongering propaganda is so effective even on educated people.
- setquk 8y ago
  I think it's still valid but at the same time our stuff is crap too.
- Sabinus 8y ago
  The Chinese equipment isn't being rejected because it can fail. It's because Chinese companies aren't as separate from the government as in the West. And they don't trust China of course.
iicc 8y ago
> Edit: Giffgaff (virtual provider) have also stated that this is a global problem which is even more worrying They're virtual, but wholly owned by the same parent as O2 (Telefónica).
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by setquk 8y ago

tossaccount123 8y ago

Huawei is rumored to have backdoored the African Union and Trump has been pushing other countries to get tough on China in general for stealing IP. This is essentially an extension of the trade war and valid fears that the Chinese government may be spying on you if you use Huewei

saaaaaam 8y ago

It’s being reported that the outage is probably related to Ericsson. “The company said that the problem stemed from a global software issue at a third-party supplier, understood to be Ericsson, which has also affected other mobile operators around the world.” https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/dec/06/o2-customers-unable-to-get-online https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/dec/06/o2-customer... Edit: also apparently confirmed by Ericsson themselves. https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-o2telefonica-outages/ericsson-software-glitch-hits-mobile-services-in-britain-and-japan-idUKKBN1O51I2 https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-o2telefonica-outages/erics...

setquk 8y ago
Interesting - thanks for posting!
- saaaaaam 8y ago
  You’re welcome!

izacus 8y ago

The outage was apparently caused by Ericssons software: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/dec/06/o2-customers-unable-to-get-online https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/dec/06/o2-customer... - our domestic, trustworthy and great company. But it's sad to see that Chinese scaremongering propaganda is so effective even on educated people.

setquk 8y ago
I think it's still valid but at the same time our stuff is crap too.
Sabinus 8y ago
The Chinese equipment isn't being rejected because it can fail. It's because Chinese companies aren't as separate from the government as in the West. And they don't trust China of course.

iicc 8y ago

> Edit: Giffgaff (virtual provider) have also stated that this is a global problem which is even more worrying They're virtual, but wholly owned by the same parent as O2 (Telefónica).

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