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Ouch. Since I'm using Fastmail ... can anybody recommend a good alternative? I don't mind paying for a good and secure E-Mailprovider. Protonmail looks nice,

Ouch. Since I'm using Fastmail ... can anybody recommend a good alternative? I don't mind paying for a good and secure E-Mailprovider. Protonmail looks nice, but it does not seem to offer IMAP (because mails are end2end encrypted).

miqkt 8y ago
Posteo (https://posteo.de https://posteo.de). Made the switch earlier this year. Webmail UI might seem clunky to some, but I use IMAP so non-issue for me. Easy to set up encryption and apparently they're powered sustainably too. One deal breaker I know of is you can't map to your own custom domains. There's something in their FAQ which explains their rationale behind this.
martinbm 8y ago
ProtonMail is indeed great and offers a bridge for use with IMAP-compatible programs. Check out https://protonmail.com/bridge/ https://protonmail.com/bridge/. I believe they are working on a more integrated solution, but no news of when it'll be out have been announced.
shakna 8y ago
Paid Protonmail has a bridge to IMAP/SMTP. [0] [0] https://protonmail.com/bridge/ https://protonmail.com/bridge/
- ftrtiabi 8y ago
  Yeah but not for mobile, which I assume means you have to use their own client? Ridiculous how much computing has regressed.
- endgame 8y ago
  GNU/Linux support when?
  - kazen44 8y ago
    there is a "beta" version available for linux. This version seem to work perfectly fine on my fedora machine so far.
krautjakob 8y ago
ProtonMail costs 8€ per month, almost twice as much as Fastmail. I'm not sure yet if I'm willing to pay that much. I guess I'll check out the other mail services listed on privacytools.io
- bigiain 8y ago
  > I'm not sure yet if I'm willing to pay that much. So what do you value your privacy at?
  - krautjakob 8y ago
    Considering most of my private E-mails are amazon order confirmations and other automated crap ... I really have to think about it.
- sjapkee 8y ago
  It sends all letters to spam. It can only receive mail, but not send.
climb_stealth 8y ago
From what I remember fastmail has always cooperated with law enforcement. It is not zero-knowledge so they always had access to the user data already. Their promise has been to not use it for advertising purposes or share it with third parties. I don't see much changing here, but I would like to know if it is.
- krautjakob 8y ago
  The Australian state now behaves exactly like an enemy of the people would. In the same way I would not use an e-mail provider in Iran, North Korea, the US or other facist regimes I will now also not use an Australian e-mail provider.
- brongondwana 8y ago
  Yep, we already blogged about this. It's shit legislation, but it is unlikely to affect our customers at all. Public perception on the other hand, it's going to hurt that plenty. Like basically all of Australian tech right now, we're super disappointed in our politicians and their games. I spoke to a couple of senators' offices today, and they were sure it would die in amendment hell. Genius.
- guitarbill 8y ago
  Email is already insecure. Even if you use GPG, that's client side, and should be as safe/unsafe as it was before this law (unsafe b/c metadata or unknown vuln). So in terms of threat model, it hasn't changed much. I'm not defending the Oz gov or companies here, but knee-jerk reactions just open you up to more mistakes. For me, the situation is still preferable to Google having my data/metadata.
anotherhuman0 8y ago
I'm very happy with Runbox.com. No idea if they're on the level or not, but I figure, everything's already compromised.
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miqkt 8y ago

Posteo (https://posteo.de https://posteo.de). Made the switch earlier this year. Webmail UI might seem clunky to some, but I use IMAP so non-issue for me. Easy to set up encryption and apparently they're powered sustainably too. One deal breaker I know of is you can't map to your own custom domains. There's something in their FAQ which explains their rationale behind this.

martinbm 8y ago

ProtonMail is indeed great and offers a bridge for use with IMAP-compatible programs. Check out https://protonmail.com/bridge/ https://protonmail.com/bridge/. I believe they are working on a more integrated solution, but no news of when it'll be out have been announced.

shakna 8y ago

Paid Protonmail has a bridge to IMAP/SMTP. [0] [0] https://protonmail.com/bridge/ https://protonmail.com/bridge/

ftrtiabi 8y ago
Yeah but not for mobile, which I assume means you have to use their own client? Ridiculous how much computing has regressed.
endgame 8y ago
GNU/Linux support when?
- kazen44 8y ago
  there is a "beta" version available for linux. This version seem to work perfectly fine on my fedora machine so far.

krautjakob 8y ago

ProtonMail costs 8€ per month, almost twice as much as Fastmail. I'm not sure yet if I'm willing to pay that much. I guess I'll check out the other mail services listed on privacytools.io

bigiain 8y ago
> I'm not sure yet if I'm willing to pay that much. So what do you value your privacy at?
- krautjakob 8y ago
  Considering most of my private E-mails are amazon order confirmations and other automated crap ... I really have to think about it.
sjapkee 8y ago
It sends all letters to spam. It can only receive mail, but not send.

climb_stealth 8y ago

From what I remember fastmail has always cooperated with law enforcement. It is not zero-knowledge so they always had access to the user data already. Their promise has been to not use it for advertising purposes or share it with third parties. I don't see much changing here, but I would like to know if it is.

krautjakob 8y ago
The Australian state now behaves exactly like an enemy of the people would. In the same way I would not use an e-mail provider in Iran, North Korea, the US or other facist regimes I will now also not use an Australian e-mail provider.
brongondwana 8y ago
Yep, we already blogged about this. It's shit legislation, but it is unlikely to affect our customers at all. Public perception on the other hand, it's going to hurt that plenty. Like basically all of Australian tech right now, we're super disappointed in our politicians and their games. I spoke to a couple of senators' offices today, and they were sure it would die in amendment hell. Genius.
guitarbill 8y ago
Email is already insecure. Even if you use GPG, that's client side, and should be as safe/unsafe as it was before this law (unsafe b/c metadata or unknown vuln). So in terms of threat model, it hasn't changed much. I'm not defending the Oz gov or companies here, but knee-jerk reactions just open you up to more mistakes. For me, the situation is still preferable to Google having my data/metadata.

anotherhuman0 8y ago

I'm very happy with Runbox.com. No idea if they're on the level or not, but I figure, everything's already compromised.

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