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It has to hurt somewhere inside Google to kill Allo but not Duo. I honestly expected the opposite given the original push behind these apps. The problem with al

It has to hurt somewhere inside Google to kill Allo but not Duo. I honestly expected the opposite given the original push behind these apps. The problem with all these messaging experiences is that none of them work well on both dekstop and mobile. They seem to be optimized one way or the other. If Google had a Telegram like experience (my favorite messaging app by far) along with their meetings app, their messaging woes would be over. I'm not sure what prevents them from creating something like that ? They seem to be driven by internal priorities/politics and lack a basic ability to see things from consumers' perspective.

saagarjha 8y ago
Does Google have another video calling solution similar to Duo to replace it with?
- dorfsmay 8y ago
  Hangouts?
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  - Gustomaximus 8y ago
    Hangout was good but it feels like Google whiteanted this product in the hope people would head to Allo/Duo. While in reality they just pushed people away completely. I find it amazing how these decisions are made... it seems like most people here could see the train wreck coming from this at the beginning. Are the descion makers that bad? Did no-one have the guts to discuss how bad these things looked or were they arrogant enought to feel they can fly above market sentiment... I always find it interesting how bad decisions are made in such seemingly obvious circumstances.
    - dorfsmay 8y ago
      I suspect the problem with hangouts is that it's free. The new gsuite meeting, or whatever it's called, looks a lot like an upgraded version of hangouts, but you have to pay for it. (Pay for gsuite)
lightedman 8y ago
Telegram is a horrible UI experience. It lacks a useful buddy list, is bandwidth-intensive, and one of its biggest selling points, encryption, almost nobody uses because it is resource-intensive junk and can even slow a computer down enough that 1990s DOOM has issues keeping a solid framerate.
vtesucks 8y ago
> telegram like experience Surely you don't mean fast, cross-platform and saves chat? Because google talk is dead
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Eridrus 8y ago
Duo has at least 10x more installs on the Play store, it's pretty clear that Duo has succeeded, while Allo has failed.
- niftich 8y ago
  Duo has replaced Hangouts in the GMS bundle of apps that vendors should ship preloaded [1][2][3][4], while Allo isn't in the list. [1] https://www.androidpolice.com/2016/10/07/google-is-demoting-hangouts-to-optional-in-the-google-apps-package-for-android-to-be-replaced-by-duo/ https://www.androidpolice.com/2016/10/07/google-is-demoting-... [2] https://www.theverge.com/2016/10/7/13202866/google-hangouts-allo-duo-core-android-apps https://www.theverge.com/2016/10/7/13202866/google-hangouts-... [3] https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/72lpsk/how_come_google_duo_is_preinstalled_on_new/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/72lpsk/how_come_go... [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_mobile_services https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_mobile_services

saagarjha 8y ago

Does Google have another video calling solution similar to Duo to replace it with?

dorfsmay 8y ago
Hangouts?
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- Gustomaximus 8y ago
  Hangout was good but it feels like Google whiteanted this product in the hope people would head to Allo/Duo. While in reality they just pushed people away completely. I find it amazing how these decisions are made... it seems like most people here could see the train wreck coming from this at the beginning. Are the descion makers that bad? Did no-one have the guts to discuss how bad these things looked or were they arrogant enought to feel they can fly above market sentiment... I always find it interesting how bad decisions are made in such seemingly obvious circumstances.
  - dorfsmay 8y ago
    I suspect the problem with hangouts is that it's free. The new gsuite meeting, or whatever it's called, looks a lot like an upgraded version of hangouts, but you have to pay for it. (Pay for gsuite)

lightedman 8y ago

Telegram is a horrible UI experience. It lacks a useful buddy list, is bandwidth-intensive, and one of its biggest selling points, encryption, almost nobody uses because it is resource-intensive junk and can even slow a computer down enough that 1990s DOOM has issues keeping a solid framerate.

vtesucks 8y ago

> telegram like experience Surely you don't mean fast, cross-platform and saves chat? Because google talk is dead

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Eridrus 8y ago

Duo has at least 10x more installs on the Play store, it's pretty clear that Duo has succeeded, while Allo has failed.

niftich 8y ago
Duo has replaced Hangouts in the GMS bundle of apps that vendors should ship preloaded [1][2][3][4], while Allo isn't in the list. [1] https://www.androidpolice.com/2016/10/07/google-is-demoting-hangouts-to-optional-in-the-google-apps-package-for-android-to-be-replaced-by-duo/ https://www.androidpolice.com/2016/10/07/google-is-demoting-... [2] https://www.theverge.com/2016/10/7/13202866/google-hangouts-allo-duo-core-android-apps https://www.theverge.com/2016/10/7/13202866/google-hangouts-... [3] https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/72lpsk/how_come_google_duo_is_preinstalled_on_new/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/72lpsk/how_come_go... [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_mobile_services https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_mobile_services