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Gah. People please stop using Z as the default key for down (or whatever). If you can't detect my keyboard layout use keys that are the same on every keyboard,

by CWIZO 16y ago

Gah. People please stop using Z as the default key for down (or whatever). If you can't detect my keyboard layout use keys that are the same on every keyboard, no matter the language, or provide an option to configure the keys. My Z (on a Slovenian keyboard) is where your Y is (on your English keyboard). This makes the game unplayable for me, since my "down" key is above my "up" key, which makes it almost impossible to play. /rant over Awesome demo tho. Would love to see source of the flash part (maybe I missed it) so we could compare the source, not just performance (which seems to be about the same on my 5 year old laptop). edit: who's now working on a (HTML5|Flash) vs Silverlight demo? That would be even more awesome.

pnp 16y ago
You have asked an important question: how do you detect the keyboard layout (in Javascript) when using KeyUp/KeyDown events? A regular press event will provide the charCode but the press/release versions do not.
- 2mur 16y ago
  You could ask if the user wants to use the standard, or custom and then capture the keycodes for up/down etc.
- qeorge 16y ago
  Quite interesting. I suppose you could ask the user to press "z" and see which KeyUp event fires. Would love to hear a more elegant solution.
zyb09 16y ago
Or just buy a US layout keyboard and use that! It's much better for coding anyway (especially for ObjC and its square brackts - these things aren't even labled on most international keyboards). Also it allows for much faster zergling production!
- CWIZO 16y ago
  I quite like my Slovenian keyboard thank you very much. I have all the stuff I need to program (PHP mostly, so C would be cool to), and I have used English keyboards and didn't like them. I'm sorry if I'm rude, but there are other characters than a-z (which I need to input quite frequently). And that is a concept English speaking developers seem rather hard to grasp (judging by most of the software out there). I just wanted to point that out.
wazoox 16y ago
On my french keyboard, both sides are equally handicapped, because the M too isn't on the same line as on a US keyboard : utterly unplayable :)
zck 16y ago
There are no keys that will work for everyone. I use Colemak -- the A and Z keys are in the same spot as Qwerty, but K is where N is on Qwerty, so that's a difference. Throw in Dvorak, and you only have A and M in the same place on those three. A "right" answer is to make the keys remappable.
- imd 16y ago
  Arrow keys work for (almost) everyone.
  - 0x3e 16y ago
    I find arrow keys quite inconvenient on my happy hacking pro keyboard, which I would imagine to be a popular choice around here.
ecaradec 16y ago
I always install a us keyboard configuration as well in addition to my french keyboard for those kinds of issues. There is no need for two keyboard. Then you can just switch by pressing ctrl-shift simultaneously on windows.

by CWIZO 16y ago

pnp 16y ago

You have asked an important question: how do you detect the keyboard layout (in Javascript) when using KeyUp/KeyDown events? A regular press event will provide the charCode but the press/release versions do not.

2mur 16y ago
You could ask if the user wants to use the standard, or custom and then capture the keycodes for up/down etc.
qeorge 16y ago
Quite interesting. I suppose you could ask the user to press "z" and see which KeyUp event fires. Would love to hear a more elegant solution.

zyb09 16y ago

Or just buy a US layout keyboard and use that! It's much better for coding anyway (especially for ObjC and its square brackts - these things aren't even labled on most international keyboards). Also it allows for much faster zergling production!

CWIZO 16y ago
I quite like my Slovenian keyboard thank you very much. I have all the stuff I need to program (PHP mostly, so C would be cool to), and I have used English keyboards and didn't like them. I'm sorry if I'm rude, but there are other characters than a-z (which I need to input quite frequently). And that is a concept English speaking developers seem rather hard to grasp (judging by most of the software out there). I just wanted to point that out.

wazoox 16y ago

On my french keyboard, both sides are equally handicapped, because the M too isn't on the same line as on a US keyboard : utterly unplayable :)

zck 16y ago

There are no keys that will work for everyone. I use Colemak -- the A and Z keys are in the same spot as Qwerty, but K is where N is on Qwerty, so that's a difference. Throw in Dvorak, and you only have A and M in the same place on those three. A "right" answer is to make the keys remappable.

imd 16y ago
Arrow keys work for (almost) everyone.
- 0x3e 16y ago
  I find arrow keys quite inconvenient on my happy hacking pro keyboard, which I would imagine to be a popular choice around here.

ecaradec 16y ago

I always install a us keyboard configuration as well in addition to my french keyboard for those kinds of issues. There is no need for two keyboard. Then you can just switch by pressing ctrl-shift simultaneously on windows.