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Facebook is in a negative news cycle. That’s means two things: a) Journalists ignore your PR team. b) Journalists just parrot and re-write was other journalis
by AJ007 8y ago
Facebook is in a negative news cycle. That’s means two things:
a) Journalists ignore your PR team.
b) Journalists just parrot and re-write was other journalists report.
c) Some journalists are doing real investigative reporting to reinforce these views.
How does it end? The news cycle changes. People forget things. Worse things happen somewhere else.
I’m a lot more concerned about what is being ignored. Facebook has apps which people can, despite what is claimed, fairly easily stop using. Google owns the full stack, operating system, browser, ad platform. It’s a lot more difficult for users to fully exit that environment in the event of abuse.
- Latteland 8y agoIt could end when new problems stop being revealed in the press, and when facebook starts to make real progress towards addressing these problems. Or facebook can just pretend it's all unfair treatment from the mean news media. I got news for you facebook - there are real problems that need to be addressed.
- jayd16 8y ago> Google owns the full stack, operating system, browser, ad platform. So does Apple, so does Microsoft. Why bring up Google specifically?
- ForHackernews 8y agoNeither of those are ad-tech companies that make their money from spying on users?
- jayd16 8y agoTargeted ads are a significant revenue source for all of these companies. That also doesn't explain why Google's stack is harder to leave than the rest.
- wDCzI78WRQaC1e3 8y agoHow does Apple make money from targeted ads?
- jayd16 8y agoSame way everyone else does. Apple has search ads, news ads, they had iAd for a while but that was shut down and it seems they're pushing a new replacement https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-looks-to-expand-advertising-business-with-new-network-for-apps-1527869990?mod=searchresults&page=1&pos=1 https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-looks-to-expand-advertisi...
- ForHackernews 8y ago> Targeted ads are a significant revenue source for all of these companies I'd like to see some documentation for that claim. Company financial reports? What percentage of Apple or Microsoft revenue comes from selling ads or user data? (Not revenue raised indirectly by them spending on their own advertising) > that also doesn't explain why Google's stack is harder to leave than the rest. Parent comment wasn't comparing the difficulty of leaving Google with the difficulty of leaving Apple/Microsoft. The comment was about leaving Google in comparison to leaving Facebook, in the context of a discussion about personal privacy. I think bringing up Apple & Microsoft is a non sequitur in this context.
- jayd16 8y agoI don't believe they release the numbers but they have app search ads and news app ads. They shutdown iAd but it looks like they want to take another crack at it. https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-looks-to-expand-advertising-business-with-new-network-for-apps-1527869990?mod=searchresults&page=1&pos=1 https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-looks-to-expand-advertisi... Microsoft owns LinkedIn and Bing which very large ad revenue services. >I think bringing up Apple & Microsoft is a non sequitur in this context. Bringing up Google alone was the non sequitur. You could argue its nearly impossible to leave the big three all together but switching between them isn't a significant burden.