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You're ignoring facts. Again. Building and maintaining roads and utilities into urban sprawl is very expensive. Public transport is less effective there. The bi

by lolc 8y ago

You're ignoring facts. Again. Building and maintaining roads and utilities into urban sprawl is very expensive. Public transport is less effective there. The bigger the area you need to protect against floods, the harder it becomes. Cities hardly ever move, they grow. And the horror scenarios? Please, people in the country will be hit just the same when they can't get gas anymore. Or when the food supply stops. What you're saying is: "Wouldn't it be nice if we all lived in the countryside?" That idea has crashed decades ago. It's unrealistic. Please stop.

xte 8y ago
So unrealistic that it's become a common practice in most developed countries... Try asking a Swedish or a French (with exception of few Parisian) what they think about cities. BTW try to determine cost per capita of countryside living and city living, also notice that foods normally came from country and sea, not from cities, oil&gas tend to be the same (how many oil/gas extraction are done inside NY?)... This idea crashed only in few countries, mostly from the third world, in the developed world only USA, Russia and eastern Europe.
- lolc 8y ago
  > try to determine cost per capita of countryside living and city living Only to have you telling me I'm doing it wrong based on personal anecdotes? No thanks. I have no trust it would lead to a useful discussion. > also notice that foods normally came from country and sea, not from cities, Food and gas don't come out of suburbia either. What's your point? > This idea crashed only in few countries, mostly from the third world, in the developed world only USA, Russia and eastern Europe. What third-world countries? It's not 1960 anymore. People all over the world are moving into large cities. They are not waiting for the cities to build the roads and pipes your idea requires.

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You're ignoring facts. Again. Building and maintaining roads and utilities into urban sprawl is very expensive. Public transport is less effective there. The bi

by lolc 8y ago

xte 8y ago
So unrealistic that it's become a common practice in most developed countries... Try asking a Swedish or a French (with exception of few Parisian) what they think about cities. BTW try to determine cost per capita of countryside living and city living, also notice that foods normally came from country and sea, not from cities, oil&gas tend to be the same (how many oil/gas extraction are done inside NY?)... This idea crashed only in few countries, mostly from the third world, in the developed world only USA, Russia and eastern Europe.
- lolc 8y ago
  > try to determine cost per capita of countryside living and city living Only to have you telling me I'm doing it wrong based on personal anecdotes? No thanks. I have no trust it would lead to a useful discussion. > also notice that foods normally came from country and sea, not from cities, Food and gas don't come out of suburbia either. What's your point? > This idea crashed only in few countries, mostly from the third world, in the developed world only USA, Russia and eastern Europe. What third-world countries? It's not 1960 anymore. People all over the world are moving into large cities. They are not waiting for the cities to build the roads and pipes your idea requires.