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This is bad for Australians and bad for anyone doing business in Australia. I already know of a case where an Australian subsidiary is being shut down and all

This is bad for Australians and bad for anyone doing business in Australia. I already know of a case where an Australian subsidiary is being shut down and all operations being moved to Europe in response to this draconian measure on the part of the Australian government. The company just doesn't want the liability of operating in such an environment, and has now classified Australia as equivalent to China in terms of risk factor. So, a multi-million dollar budget goes to Europe instead, and Australia loses a tech leader. This is only going to hurt the Australian people.

sdwisely 8y ago
As an Australian - good. Move away from us, we should be considered toxic. It's the best thing that can happen for the rest of the world and it's the best thing that can happen for Australians.
- SturgeonsLaw 8y ago
  Also an Aussie, and I completely agree. Can you imagine the shitstorm if, say, Apple refused to release any more devices here due to this legislation? It would cause an uproar - every politician that voted for this bill would know that their head is on the chopping block when the next election rolls around.
  - sdwisely 8y ago
    and it looks like it just passed the senate unammended. We are officially bad citizens of the internet and our contributions should be scrutinized as such. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-06/labor-backdown-federal-government-to-pass-greater-surveillance/10591944 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-06/labor-backdown-federa...
    - fit2rule 8y ago
      Its not just the Internet. This is just a side-effect of a worse infliction. Australias human rights record needs serious inspection. Also, its militarism is scary.
- fit2rule 8y ago
  The best thing that could happen for Australia and Australians is that the Australian public stop being so feckless and get their political classes under control. I have little hope of that happening, however. Australians would rather smash avocados than exercise their sovereign rights to demand better politicians.
  - brokenmachine 8y ago
    What can I do? Both sides passed this abomination. I'll vote for privacy. Please give me an option.
    - fit2rule 8y ago
      Support the EFF, go to their events, get informed and inform your family and peers. Support the effort to ensure that Australians get a Bill of Rights. https://www.efa.org.au https://www.efa.org.au
brokenmachine 8y ago
We are infected and contagious. We can't be trusted and don't deserve technology. Take your business elsewhere. Please quarantine us so our sickness can't spread.

sdwisely 8y ago

As an Australian - good. Move away from us, we should be considered toxic. It's the best thing that can happen for the rest of the world and it's the best thing that can happen for Australians.

SturgeonsLaw 8y ago
Also an Aussie, and I completely agree. Can you imagine the shitstorm if, say, Apple refused to release any more devices here due to this legislation? It would cause an uproar - every politician that voted for this bill would know that their head is on the chopping block when the next election rolls around.
- sdwisely 8y ago
  and it looks like it just passed the senate unammended. We are officially bad citizens of the internet and our contributions should be scrutinized as such. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-06/labor-backdown-federal-government-to-pass-greater-surveillance/10591944 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-06/labor-backdown-federa...
  - fit2rule 8y ago
    Its not just the Internet. This is just a side-effect of a worse infliction. Australias human rights record needs serious inspection. Also, its militarism is scary.
fit2rule 8y ago
The best thing that could happen for Australia and Australians is that the Australian public stop being so feckless and get their political classes under control. I have little hope of that happening, however. Australians would rather smash avocados than exercise their sovereign rights to demand better politicians.
- brokenmachine 8y ago
  What can I do? Both sides passed this abomination. I'll vote for privacy. Please give me an option.
  - fit2rule 8y ago
    Support the EFF, go to their events, get informed and inform your family and peers. Support the effort to ensure that Australians get a Bill of Rights. https://www.efa.org.au https://www.efa.org.au

brokenmachine 8y ago

We are infected and contagious. We can't be trusted and don't deserve technology. Take your business elsewhere. Please quarantine us so our sickness can't spread.