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Make "our" side worth fighting for/with again. Liberty and Justice for all, in that order. Freedom for everyone, and a war against the existence of repressive

Make "our" side worth fighting for/with again. Liberty and Justice for all, in that order. Freedom for everyone, and a war against the existence of repressive regimes and states in all aspects. (Liberty is a bit complicated, given harm to / from others and sorting that out...)

anonymous5133 8y ago
Yes but those reforms must come from within said country, not from an external force forcing it upon the nation. When an external force acts upon another country to "reform" it then often there are other agendas at play like power, control of resources and so on.
- mc32 8y ago
  I’d agree with this. Imagine if instead of a civil war France or Britain came in and sorted things out for us. Simetimes nations have to go through that crucible themselves and figure out what works for them, provided they aren’t being belligerent against peaceful neighbors.
jriot 8y ago
What freedoms are people in America not afforded?
- btilly 8y ago
  How about the 4th amendment? Yes, I know their bizarre theory that collecting all of my digital data and indexing it for later lookup isn't a search until someone actually pulls my records. And their even more bizarre theory that their analysts should be trusted to always do the right thing despite a complete lack of effective oversight. (Because collecting data on how many times their analysts are pulling records on US citizens would itself be a "search", so they can't do that.) I don't know under what theory they think it is OK to give all of their data on me away to 4 other countries who aren't restricted from searching it all that they want. But the fact that they do certainly means that they aren't protecting me from unreasonable searches. Even if you just limit searches to their own bullshit definition.
devoply 8y ago
Well it's called the DoD, but really it's the DoW... and usually it fights for DOW Jones.

anonymous5133 8y ago

Yes but those reforms must come from within said country, not from an external force forcing it upon the nation. When an external force acts upon another country to "reform" it then often there are other agendas at play like power, control of resources and so on.

mc32 8y ago
I’d agree with this. Imagine if instead of a civil war France or Britain came in and sorted things out for us. Simetimes nations have to go through that crucible themselves and figure out what works for them, provided they aren’t being belligerent against peaceful neighbors.

jriot 8y ago

What freedoms are people in America not afforded?

btilly 8y ago
How about the 4th amendment? Yes, I know their bizarre theory that collecting all of my digital data and indexing it for later lookup isn't a search until someone actually pulls my records. And their even more bizarre theory that their analysts should be trusted to always do the right thing despite a complete lack of effective oversight. (Because collecting data on how many times their analysts are pulling records on US citizens would itself be a "search", so they can't do that.) I don't know under what theory they think it is OK to give all of their data on me away to 4 other countries who aren't restricted from searching it all that they want. But the fact that they do certainly means that they aren't protecting me from unreasonable searches. Even if you just limit searches to their own bullshit definition.

devoply 8y ago

Well it's called the DoD, but really it's the DoW... and usually it fights for DOW Jones.