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They don't duck surveillance from facebook as you and I know it, but from facebook as an employer, which is very different. If a company provides your phone, t

They don't duck surveillance from facebook as you and I know it, but from facebook as an employer, which is very different. If a company provides your phone, then it has access to it, and if you don't want your company to have access to what you do on it, you use a different phone. If you want the convenience of a personal phone that you can check your work mail (or work facebook groups) on, then you grant access to that company. It isn't any different from when a law firm or bank provides its employees phones. If you don't want that firm or bank to read what you write on it, then you need another phone. A "burner phone" gets thrown away--"burned"--to prevent the someone from tracking you. You don't allow anyone to know you use it. No one at facebook cares if you use a second phone. So some better terms would be "personal phone" or "non-corporate phone".

iamdave 8y ago
If a company provides your phone, then it has access to it, and if you don't want your company to have access to what you do on it, you use a different phone. If you want the convenience of a personal phone that you can check your work mail (or work facebook groups) on, then you grant access to that company. Right, and as I said in another comment, my statement here isn't to suggest I don't know what a burner phone is. My statement above is because I'd think someone would either say "We use our personal phones" or something similar to describe how they talk about FB without FB knowing it. Describing your personal phone as a "burner phone" seems odd and possibly telling that there's something else there. There very well might NOT be, but as I mentioned before: the article doesn't really say much further so it's hard to know.
- diminoten 8y ago
  > Describing your personal phone as a "burner phone" seems odd and possibly telling that there's something else there. Doesn't seem odd to me, in the context of a) a former employee sensationalizing the situation and/or b) hiding behavior from any employer.
  - Varcht 8y ago
    Next you will tell us that Trump really had his "wires tapped"...
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coryfklein 8y ago
> A "burner phone" gets thrown away--"burned"--to prevent the someone from tracking you. I would see this as a tertiary characteristic of burner phones that is certainly optional. Almost every usage of "burner phone" you see in media, film, and print, is used to indicate a phone that is unmonitored. Queue scene of FBI in room with monitors showing camera views of Jason Bourne talking on a phone. "He's got a burner" is more likely to be said when Bourne is talking on the phone, not when he's throwing it away.
elliekelly 8y ago
>It isn't any different from when a law firm or bank provides its employees phones. But the law firm and the bank aren't in the business of snooping on cell phones. Facebook is. I've had phones from both a firm and a bank. They didn't look at what someone was doing without cause and they had very strict procedures to follow to get permission to even look even though it was a company phone.

iamdave 8y ago

If a company provides your phone, then it has access to it, and if you don't want your company to have access to what you do on it, you use a different phone. If you want the convenience of a personal phone that you can check your work mail (or work facebook groups) on, then you grant access to that company. Right, and as I said in another comment, my statement here isn't to suggest I don't know what a burner phone is. My statement above is because I'd think someone would either say "We use our personal phones" or something similar to describe how they talk about FB without FB knowing it. Describing your personal phone as a "burner phone" seems odd and possibly telling that there's something else there. There very well might NOT be, but as I mentioned before: the article doesn't really say much further so it's hard to know.

diminoten 8y ago
> Describing your personal phone as a "burner phone" seems odd and possibly telling that there's something else there. Doesn't seem odd to me, in the context of a) a former employee sensationalizing the situation and/or b) hiding behavior from any employer.
- Varcht 8y ago
  Next you will tell us that Trump really had his "wires tapped"...
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coryfklein 8y ago

> A "burner phone" gets thrown away--"burned"--to prevent the someone from tracking you. I would see this as a tertiary characteristic of burner phones that is certainly optional. Almost every usage of "burner phone" you see in media, film, and print, is used to indicate a phone that is unmonitored. Queue scene of FBI in room with monitors showing camera views of Jason Bourne talking on a phone. "He's got a burner" is more likely to be said when Bourne is talking on the phone, not when he's throwing it away.

elliekelly 8y ago

>It isn't any different from when a law firm or bank provides its employees phones. But the law firm and the bank aren't in the business of snooping on cell phones. Facebook is. I've had phones from both a firm and a bank. They didn't look at what someone was doing without cause and they had very strict procedures to follow to get permission to even look even though it was a company phone.