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Careful what you wish for. You might just get it and it may not be what you want.
by eaandkw 8y ago
Careful what you wish for. You might just get it and it may not be what you want.
- babygoat 8y agoThat's very ominous. Would you care to elaborate?
- AlexandrB 8y agoI think he's implying that Google may resolve the issue by treating the full time employees the same way they treat the contractors.
- tanilama 8y agoI am quite welcome if that happens actually, that is what equality means isn't it.
- YetAnotherNick 8y agoNot if you are Google full time employee.
- babygoat 8y agoAre you saying you want them all to endure "discrimination, racism, and sexual harassment"? I hope I'm reading you wrong.
- ljm 8y agoThe assumption is to bring contractors up to the level of employees, but when demanding equality on those terms it might also mean that employees are brought down to the level of contractors.
- babygoat 8y agoThe wish was specific enough to prevent that.
- jedmeyers 8y agoWell, if you want equal treatment then either contractors will be treated as good as employees, or the employees will be treated worse to have an equal treatment with contractors.
- busterarm 8y agoGoogle's been down this road before. They were called out for having too many contractors to full-timers and their response was largely to eliminate contract positions. That didn't last. I had a friend who was a contract developer back when their NYC footprint was just the 8th avenue building and he was working 4 people to a cubicle.
- ori_b 8y agoI was in the Google NYC 8th ave building as a full employee -- everyone who had a cubicle was working 4 people to a cubicle. Then they densified, and put six people to a cubicle, The cubicles were pretty big. Then they moved us to a different section of the building with an open floor plan with no cubicles at all.
- Analemma_ 8y agoAs other people on the thread have mentioned, you can look at Microsoft to see what will happen. This same exact situation played out there: long-term contractors demanded employee rights, went to court, and got them. So Microsoft immediately changed its policy to a) pretty much ban individual contractors who weren’t working through agencies (that skim way more off the top than they’re worth), and b) set a hard limit of 18 months, after which the contractor has to leave and can’t work for Microsoft again for a “cool-down period”. Which sucks for everyone: the contractors aren’t any better off than they were, and the FTEs now have to waste time training a new person every year and a half just when the outgoing one had become an expert who needed little supervision.