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In your two camps, I'd be curious to see why someone would specifically choose just video based? Ie, I'd expect (as a layman) neural nets to be able to consume

In your two camps, I'd be curious to see why someone would specifically choose just video based? Ie, I'd expect (as a layman) neural nets to be able to consume many different data types. Why limit to just one? I wonder what is better about just video, rather than video+lidar+audio+x+y. Hell, one of the most neat things to me was how Teslas can scan multiple cars ahead to know of non-visible traffic blockages/etc. Using just video seems like a step backwards. Though, if it can produce better AI, I suppose it's still forwards.

Traster 8y ago
Well, the only person who appears to be stating that you can use video only is Tesla, and Elon Musk seems to be the only person stating that that's the right strategy. From what I've seen he basically says: If you focus on vision and solve it, you've got autonomous driving whereas if you use a kludge of different sensors none of them will be great and the final solution won't be great. As an engineer whose worked on similar projects this just seems down-right incorrect frankly- especially in safety critical systems. However, it's also worth noting that when he said that it was suggested an autonomous Tesla drive across the country would complete by EOY 2017[1]. It's ALSO worth noting that Tesla have really upsold this idea of 'Buy a Tesla now, and it'll magically become autonomous'[2] [1] https://electrek.co/2017/04/29/elon-musk-tesla-plan-level-5-full-autonomous-driving/ https://electrek.co/2017/04/29/elon-musk-tesla-plan-level-5-... [2] https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/11/17449076/tesla-autopilot-full-self-driving-elon-musk https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/11/17449076/tesla-autopilot-...
dominotw 8y ago
> i'd be curious to see why someone would specifically choose just video based? other than cost? Teslas are consumer vehicles that are price sensitive.

Traster 8y ago

Well, the only person who appears to be stating that you can use video only is Tesla, and Elon Musk seems to be the only person stating that that's the right strategy. From what I've seen he basically says: If you focus on vision and solve it, you've got autonomous driving whereas if you use a kludge of different sensors none of them will be great and the final solution won't be great. As an engineer whose worked on similar projects this just seems down-right incorrect frankly- especially in safety critical systems. However, it's also worth noting that when he said that it was suggested an autonomous Tesla drive across the country would complete by EOY 2017[1]. It's ALSO worth noting that Tesla have really upsold this idea of 'Buy a Tesla now, and it'll magically become autonomous'[2] [1] https://electrek.co/2017/04/29/elon-musk-tesla-plan-level-5-full-autonomous-driving/ https://electrek.co/2017/04/29/elon-musk-tesla-plan-level-5-... [2] https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/11/17449076/tesla-autopilot-full-self-driving-elon-musk https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/11/17449076/tesla-autopilot-...

dominotw 8y ago

> i'd be curious to see why someone would specifically choose just video based? other than cost? Teslas are consumer vehicles that are price sensitive.