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qnsi 8y ago
I wrote some things that made me reconsider keto diet here https://github.com/qnsi/open_source_guides/blob/master/ketosis.md https://github.com/qnsi/open_source_guides/blob/master/ketos... I think if your goal is rapid weight loss it might work fine, but I think for long-term more vegetarian diet might be better.
- madmulita 8y ago
  I come from a vegetarian diet, 13 years. For me it became unsustainable and the weight was still a problem.
- kzisme 8y ago
  Any suggestions on a weight loss diet other than keto? I've heard mostly praise about the diet, but personally I don't think I could go full vegetarian.
  - qnsi 8y ago
    Please note that I am by no means an expert, just writing what works for me. I think you pretty much have to do calories counting, at least at the start, until you get to know how much calorie something is. Probably not suitable for long-term, as it gets tedious. But good to cut on snacking etc. Don't overdo your calorie deficit, as it can slow your metabolism too much. One thing that kinda works for me, is eating food high on satiety index. I drink this smoothie everyday https://www.foundmyfitness.com/reports/micronutrient-smoothie.pdf https://www.foundmyfitness.com/reports/micronutrient-smoothi..., but you have to drink it slowly and best to use a straw not to destroy your teeth. I prefer smoothie form because I wouldn't be able to eat that many greens otherwise. (Also numbers she gave is for 2 smoothies) It's about 500kcal and pretty satiating. Without fruits, you could fit it into keto just barely and you can skip the apple and banana, but I would stay with blueberries as they are super good food. Apart from the smoothie, I eat some kind of meat + veggies for lunch, and I stick to the eggs for dinner + I finish my smoothie (I drink 2/3 for breakfast). So I am not following a vegetarian diet, but I added a lot of veggies.
- babygoat 8y ago
  Interesting, thanks for that! I don't know anything about this and thought it was just a metabolism/energy thing. I didn't realize people were doing it for rapid weight loss.
- omarva 8y ago
  I recommend reading the book 'Ketotarian' by Dr. Will Cole. He is a ketogenic diet expert and combines ketogenic and vegetarian type foods
- carlmr 8y ago
  Although I find keto impossible to stick to, I think most of the problems are from the kinds of foods people eat instead of the macro nutrients. Red meat is generally not that good for you. Processed meat is basically packaged garbage. If you do keto with mostly white meat, fish, nuts, and olive oil, combined with huge amount of veggies, you're probably going to be healthy. What I see as the most critical is the long term lack of fruit. Fruit contain a lot of vitamins that you might lack on keto. If you ask me paleo is probably the better diet, considering it forbids processed meat, grains and alcohol. It's basically keto as described above with fruit.

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qnsi 8y ago

I wrote some things that made me reconsider keto diet here https://github.com/qnsi/open_source_guides/blob/master/ketosis.md https://github.com/qnsi/open_source_guides/blob/master/ketos... I think if your goal is rapid weight loss it might work fine, but I think for long-term more vegetarian diet might be better.

madmulita 8y ago
I come from a vegetarian diet, 13 years. For me it became unsustainable and the weight was still a problem.
kzisme 8y ago
Any suggestions on a weight loss diet other than keto? I've heard mostly praise about the diet, but personally I don't think I could go full vegetarian.
- qnsi 8y ago
  Please note that I am by no means an expert, just writing what works for me. I think you pretty much have to do calories counting, at least at the start, until you get to know how much calorie something is. Probably not suitable for long-term, as it gets tedious. But good to cut on snacking etc. Don't overdo your calorie deficit, as it can slow your metabolism too much. One thing that kinda works for me, is eating food high on satiety index. I drink this smoothie everyday https://www.foundmyfitness.com/reports/micronutrient-smoothie.pdf https://www.foundmyfitness.com/reports/micronutrient-smoothi..., but you have to drink it slowly and best to use a straw not to destroy your teeth. I prefer smoothie form because I wouldn't be able to eat that many greens otherwise. (Also numbers she gave is for 2 smoothies) It's about 500kcal and pretty satiating. Without fruits, you could fit it into keto just barely and you can skip the apple and banana, but I would stay with blueberries as they are super good food. Apart from the smoothie, I eat some kind of meat + veggies for lunch, and I stick to the eggs for dinner + I finish my smoothie (I drink 2/3 for breakfast). So I am not following a vegetarian diet, but I added a lot of veggies.
babygoat 8y ago
Interesting, thanks for that! I don't know anything about this and thought it was just a metabolism/energy thing. I didn't realize people were doing it for rapid weight loss.
omarva 8y ago
I recommend reading the book 'Ketotarian' by Dr. Will Cole. He is a ketogenic diet expert and combines ketogenic and vegetarian type foods
carlmr 8y ago
Although I find keto impossible to stick to, I think most of the problems are from the kinds of foods people eat instead of the macro nutrients. Red meat is generally not that good for you. Processed meat is basically packaged garbage. If you do keto with mostly white meat, fish, nuts, and olive oil, combined with huge amount of veggies, you're probably going to be healthy. What I see as the most critical is the long term lack of fruit. Fruit contain a lot of vitamins that you might lack on keto. If you ask me paleo is probably the better diet, considering it forbids processed meat, grains and alcohol. It's basically keto as described above with fruit.