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I don’t see a lot of evidence that elementary schools have started classes earlier as more households have relied on both parents working. I _have_ seen an incr

I don’t see a lot of evidence that elementary schools have started classes earlier as more households have relied on both parents working. I _have_ seen an increase in after-school programs to make up the gap between school letting out and parents getting off of work. The battle to get up early is about as old as time. We aren’t that far removed from an agrarian-based economy, and farm work has always required very early rising (my father grew up raising dairy cows: he was fond of reminding us as children that the cows don’t care how tired you are). “Early to bed and early to rise” is not a modern day mantra, but I fear we’ve kept the wake up call constant while continuing to push how long we stay up. I don’t know how to fix it: if your kid is in an after-school program until 6, comes home to eat dinner, and then still has to do homework... I don’t see how an early bedtime is even possible.

jayd16 8y ago
>I don’t see a lot of evidence Have you actually looked? Ask some parents and see what replies you get.
- sturgill 8y ago
  I’m a father of three. I’ve had my kids in schools in four different cities. If we’re playing anecdotes, growing up my elementary school started at 8:00. My kid’s have had school start around 7:45. I don’t think that 15 minutes is the issue. Continuing our story time, as a child a very small number of my classmates were part of after-school programs. Kids today are much more scheduled and for far later into the day. I grew up wandering the streets and maybe had baseball practice one day a week with a game on Saturday. I was home from school around 3:30, had homework done by 4:30-5:00, ate dinner around 5:30, and was put to bed (in elementary school) by 8. I remember the thrill of having my bed time pushed to 9 around 8th grade. Bed time was 10 in high school except for weekends. Very few people rode the bus to school: most had a parent drop them off. This game changes significantly when both parents work. If both parents have to be in the office by 8, kids have to take the bus. Which means they have to get up very early. If both parents work until 5, then kids have to be in after-school programs. They’ll get home by 6-ish and have to fit in dinner, homework, and whatever activities they need to put on their resume to get into college.

jayd16 8y ago

>I don’t see a lot of evidence Have you actually looked? Ask some parents and see what replies you get.

sturgill 8y ago
I’m a father of three. I’ve had my kids in schools in four different cities. If we’re playing anecdotes, growing up my elementary school started at 8:00. My kid’s have had school start around 7:45. I don’t think that 15 minutes is the issue. Continuing our story time, as a child a very small number of my classmates were part of after-school programs. Kids today are much more scheduled and for far later into the day. I grew up wandering the streets and maybe had baseball practice one day a week with a game on Saturday. I was home from school around 3:30, had homework done by 4:30-5:00, ate dinner around 5:30, and was put to bed (in elementary school) by 8. I remember the thrill of having my bed time pushed to 9 around 8th grade. Bed time was 10 in high school except for weekends. Very few people rode the bus to school: most had a parent drop them off. This game changes significantly when both parents work. If both parents have to be in the office by 8, kids have to take the bus. Which means they have to get up very early. If both parents work until 5, then kids have to be in after-school programs. They’ll get home by 6-ish and have to fit in dinner, homework, and whatever activities they need to put on their resume to get into college.