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So they pay for garage around the corner instead of the garage in the basement. Good for them!

by varjag 8y ago

CalRobert 8y ago
Yeah exactly. And I don't pay for a spot I don't need (I don't have a car). We have gocar which is handy for people who need a car for the odd day trip or Ikea run, but not on a daily basis.
- varjag 8y ago
  That parking garage around the corner still has some degree of vacancy and still occupies the estate that "could been home for humans", so in this way it's no difference.
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  - CalRobert 8y ago
    It's very different, because now if I say "hey, I could get a better return on that land than the company that runs the garage" I can * buy the land. * turn it in to homes. It also means that as the area grows and more people come here and wish to park and live here, they can price according to the market, meaning we can determine if more people want to live on that land or park on it. Also, for me at least the most expensive part of car ownership would be paying for parking. If I had a space with my flat, I'd probably own a car because it's a sunk cost (I would be bitter about it though). As it stands now I have the choice of not paying for a parking space, and I prefer not to.
bluGill 8y ago
If there is a mix of land use and enough density people can go car free. When you walk to work and local stores: the need for a car is low and so you start thinking about getting rid of it completely. The trips you currently take outside the cities are more expensive, but you don't take them often so overall the car isn't worth it. When you can't walk most places (in the US zoning codes won't allow it) you start to need a car. There is a level where public transit and work for some people but cars start to make sense at this level (thought perhaps one car per family instead of one per adult)
- burfog 8y ago
  When you can walk most places, you get terrifying street people.
  - lsc 8y ago
    I would much rather face an unarmed crazy person on foot than a crazy person in a car. I think the statistics back me up here; in a car or as a pedestrian, you face a lot more danger from the cars around you than from the pedestrians around you, even in the worst neighborhoods.

So they pay for garage around the corner instead of the garage in the basement. Good for them!

by varjag 8y ago

So they pay for garage around the corner instead of the garage in the basement. Good for them!

Yeah exactly. And I don't pay for a spot I don't need (I don't have a car). We have gocar which is handy for people who need a car for the odd day trip or Ikea run, but not on a daily basis.

varjag 8y ago
That parking garage around the corner still has some degree of vacancy and still occupies the estate that "could been home for humans", so in this way it's no difference.
- deleted 8y ago
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- CalRobert 8y ago
  It's very different, because now if I say "hey, I could get a better return on that land than the company that runs the garage" I can * buy the land. * turn it in to homes. It also means that as the area grows and more people come here and wish to park and live here, they can price according to the market, meaning we can determine if more people want to live on that land or park on it. Also, for me at least the most expensive part of car ownership would be paying for parking. If I had a space with my flat, I'd probably own a car because it's a sunk cost (I would be bitter about it though). As it stands now I have the choice of not paying for a parking space, and I prefer not to.

bluGill 8y ago

If there is a mix of land use and enough density people can go car free. When you walk to work and local stores: the need for a car is low and so you start thinking about getting rid of it completely. The trips you currently take outside the cities are more expensive, but you don't take them often so overall the car isn't worth it. When you can't walk most places (in the US zoning codes won't allow it) you start to need a car. There is a level where public transit and work for some people but cars start to make sense at this level (thought perhaps one car per family instead of one per adult)

burfog 8y ago
When you can walk most places, you get terrifying street people.
- lsc 8y ago
  I would much rather face an unarmed crazy person on foot than a crazy person in a car. I think the statistics back me up here; in a car or as a pedestrian, you face a lot more danger from the cars around you than from the pedestrians around you, even in the worst neighborhoods.