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This is interesting and not something I'd considered. I wonder though if they've got the balance right. These protocols were developed no doubt before it was re

This is interesting and not something I'd considered. I wonder though if they've got the balance right. These protocols were developed no doubt before it was really understood how incredibly dangerous poor sleep is to our health most especially during recovery from illness.

trashtester 8y ago
Its a mix of protocols, procedures, habits and personal biases, as are most such things in most workplaces. But most of all, I think it is an attention thing. For the staff, a patient being sleep depraved for a couple nights is very low on their list of concerns. They see people die almost every day. For the patient, the emphasis is different, especially for the ones that are there for minor issues. Medically, a few nights with reduced sleep quality is unlikely to make a big difference. Now, if it goes on for weeks or months, that is another matter. Still, more people are probably seriously injured or die from bedsores sleep depravation. Not to mention those that die from fall injuries caused by trying to walk to the bathroom unassisted. (The latter is the most frequent case of preventable fatal injuries aquired in most hospitals, at least in my country) From my point of view, most complaints about loss of sleep in hospital are in the same category as complaining about the food. 1st world problems.
- Nasrudith 8y ago
  Except sleep is important to recovery for colds let alone serious ailments. It isn't like complaining about only bland vegetables and starches. It is like complaining about hospital food being literally only a handful of breadcrumbs a day and lamenting their blood counts are so low, muscle atrophy and they have scurvy. Clearly the whiners should have been exercising more
  - code_duck 8y ago
    Hospital food actually is quite unhealthy and not conducive to healing. I’d imagine that the only people who woild dismiss such concerns are the people who put such a system in place where they serve white bread and Jell-O with high fructose corn syrup and artificial food coloring to people who are barely breathing. Hospital patients need all the nutrition they can get. Providing the equivalent of a frozen dinner or fast food isn’t very responsible.
- code_duck 8y ago
  Hospitals are barely capable of providing appropriate foods for people with strict gluten-free diet. Also, their food basically follows 1950s American ideas the nutrition… Breaded chicken with Jell-O and canned peas. I don’t think allergy avoidance and food that actually has nutrition is a “first world problem“ and it’s not constructive to dismiss these concerns in such a manner. It’s especially absurd given that patients are surely paying enough money to provide decent food or any food they desire.
C1sc0cat 8y ago
It does depend on what sort of ward you are in I have mostly spent time in low risk and high risk renal wards and intensive care. If your in a high risk category they would rather be safe than sorry

trashtester 8y ago

Its a mix of protocols, procedures, habits and personal biases, as are most such things in most workplaces. But most of all, I think it is an attention thing. For the staff, a patient being sleep depraved for a couple nights is very low on their list of concerns. They see people die almost every day. For the patient, the emphasis is different, especially for the ones that are there for minor issues. Medically, a few nights with reduced sleep quality is unlikely to make a big difference. Now, if it goes on for weeks or months, that is another matter. Still, more people are probably seriously injured or die from bedsores sleep depravation. Not to mention those that die from fall injuries caused by trying to walk to the bathroom unassisted. (The latter is the most frequent case of preventable fatal injuries aquired in most hospitals, at least in my country) From my point of view, most complaints about loss of sleep in hospital are in the same category as complaining about the food. 1st world problems.

Nasrudith 8y ago
Except sleep is important to recovery for colds let alone serious ailments. It isn't like complaining about only bland vegetables and starches. It is like complaining about hospital food being literally only a handful of breadcrumbs a day and lamenting their blood counts are so low, muscle atrophy and they have scurvy. Clearly the whiners should have been exercising more
- code_duck 8y ago
  Hospital food actually is quite unhealthy and not conducive to healing. I’d imagine that the only people who woild dismiss such concerns are the people who put such a system in place where they serve white bread and Jell-O with high fructose corn syrup and artificial food coloring to people who are barely breathing. Hospital patients need all the nutrition they can get. Providing the equivalent of a frozen dinner or fast food isn’t very responsible.
code_duck 8y ago
Hospitals are barely capable of providing appropriate foods for people with strict gluten-free diet. Also, their food basically follows 1950s American ideas the nutrition… Breaded chicken with Jell-O and canned peas. I don’t think allergy avoidance and food that actually has nutrition is a “first world problem“ and it’s not constructive to dismiss these concerns in such a manner. It’s especially absurd given that patients are surely paying enough money to provide decent food or any food they desire.

C1sc0cat 8y ago

It does depend on what sort of ward you are in I have mostly spent time in low risk and high risk renal wards and intensive care. If your in a high risk category they would rather be safe than sorry