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I want to note that Dart and Flutter are being used for Fuchsia it seems like[0]. I'm pretty sure that Fuchsia is a big project Google is not going to abandon s

I want to note that Dart and Flutter are being used for Fuchsia it seems like[0]. I'm pretty sure that Fuchsia is a big project Google is not going to abandon so Dart and Flutter are probably safe. There is the chance of them throwing it away maybe noting it as an experiment on the way to whatever they land on inside Fuchsia but the amount of developer ire they would draw is hard to imagine. [0]: https://9to5google.com/2018/03/02/fuchsia-friday-first-fuchsia-app/ https://9to5google.com/2018/03/02/fuchsia-friday-first-fuchs...

Androider 8y ago
Fuchsia is to Google as Tizen is to Samsung... something keep in the back pocket for a worst-case legal total war, but unlikely to see any real world use.
- hardwaresofton 8y ago
  Really? but Fuchsia isn't just a mobile operating system -- I think they want to own all the software at almost every level. I wouldn't be surprised if they started running their own hardware and laptops with Fuchsia as well if it was good enough. It's a bit cynical but I think they might even want to just bin linux as a base for Android and migrate off of it completely, get their notebooks/chromebooks on Fuchsia, and make a play for OSes to run on. Think of how much data they could get for the industrial advertising complex at the OS level.
  - oblio 8y ago
    > I think they want to own all the software at almost every level That's what everyone wants to do. Guess what, Google might be big, but Android is big because Google has many partners. If they try to pull that off, all their partners will drop them like a hot potato. And I agree with you it's probably to ditch Linux cause Linux has too much political baggage, i.e. they want to fully control Fuchsia. For us, it's probably better if Fuchsia fails.
    - hardwaresofton 8y ago
      > If they try to pull that off, all their partners will drop them like a hot potato. At that point, will they have a choice? I mean most partners already bow to Google's control over AOSP -- if they said tomorrow that android was actually switching to run on top of fuchsia (let's say they did all the work to make it happen, so it was "seamless"), everyone would just be like... "ok". While I'm not sure I necessarily want Fuchsia to fail, I'm 100% with you on it being likely better for the world if google didn't own everything...
      - pjmlp 8y ago
        Lets put it this way, Google already made most of the work with Treble and yet it isn't being adopted as they thought it would, making them finally take a stance regarding updates. https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2018/11/an-update-on-project-treble.html https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2018/11/an-update-...

Androider 8y ago

Fuchsia is to Google as Tizen is to Samsung... something keep in the back pocket for a worst-case legal total war, but unlikely to see any real world use.

hardwaresofton 8y ago
Really? but Fuchsia isn't just a mobile operating system -- I think they want to own all the software at almost every level. I wouldn't be surprised if they started running their own hardware and laptops with Fuchsia as well if it was good enough. It's a bit cynical but I think they might even want to just bin linux as a base for Android and migrate off of it completely, get their notebooks/chromebooks on Fuchsia, and make a play for OSes to run on. Think of how much data they could get for the industrial advertising complex at the OS level.
- oblio 8y ago
  > I think they want to own all the software at almost every level That's what everyone wants to do. Guess what, Google might be big, but Android is big because Google has many partners. If they try to pull that off, all their partners will drop them like a hot potato. And I agree with you it's probably to ditch Linux cause Linux has too much political baggage, i.e. they want to fully control Fuchsia. For us, it's probably better if Fuchsia fails.
  - hardwaresofton 8y ago
    > If they try to pull that off, all their partners will drop them like a hot potato. At that point, will they have a choice? I mean most partners already bow to Google's control over AOSP -- if they said tomorrow that android was actually switching to run on top of fuchsia (let's say they did all the work to make it happen, so it was "seamless"), everyone would just be like... "ok". While I'm not sure I necessarily want Fuchsia to fail, I'm 100% with you on it being likely better for the world if google didn't own everything...
    - pjmlp 8y ago
      Lets put it this way, Google already made most of the work with Treble and yet it isn't being adopted as they thought it would, making them finally take a stance regarding updates. https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2018/11/an-update-on-project-treble.html https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2018/11/an-update-...