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Neither Windows.Forms or WPF can easily be made portable, the code is really a thin layer on top of existing Windows services. I know, because I did this befor

Neither Windows.Forms or WPF can easily be made portable, the code is really a thin layer on top of existing Windows services. I know, because I did this before with Mono, and the changes would be highly disruptive to the codebase.

Drdrdrq 8y ago
Which is probably the reason they open-sourced it... Not much difference anyway.
- pknopf 8y ago
  Except people can contribute to features/bugs for the platform that they do support?
  - SllX 8y ago
    Not to be overly cynical, but this is kind of obvious: that means your contributions really only benefit Microsoft in the long run. Sure you might derive benefit, but Microsoft is the real beneficiary here, and they don’t even have any obligation to pay you.
    - TomVDB 8y ago
      "Is the current situation better for the customer than the one yesterday?" is the way I like to think about these things.
    - jodrellblank 8y ago
      Name an open source freemium project run by a for-profit company which /doesn't/ benefit the company more than the individual submitting patches?
tracker1 8y ago
Would it be relatively easy to shim to use Wine (where available)?
- tbodt 8y ago
  You could already use Mono with Wine
  - voltagex_ 8y ago
    The dotnet installer still needs hacks, right?
wvenable 8y ago
If someone wanted to attempt it, it would make much more sense as a fork rather than part of the mainline.
- gorn 8y ago
  Well, he started the Mono Project :)
  - mr_overalls 8y ago
    So he did. I feel as if I've arrived - I just got corrected by Miguel de Icaza. :-)
zoobab 8y ago
Use Python QT, it is portable. No need to invest time and effort in non-portable GUIs. And their whole .Net is full of patents.
- qwerty456127 8y ago
  PyQT can be considered a reasonable (and in many ways superior) alternative to WinForms but what about WPF? Is there a modern cross-platform non-browser declarative 2-way-binding MVVM desktop GUI toolkit? I use PyQT mysef but I really wish I could use binding instead of just handling events manually.
- eliasdaler 8y ago
  Why not just use Qt then?

Drdrdrq 8y ago

Which is probably the reason they open-sourced it... Not much difference anyway.

pknopf 8y ago
Except people can contribute to features/bugs for the platform that they do support?
- SllX 8y ago
  Not to be overly cynical, but this is kind of obvious: that means your contributions really only benefit Microsoft in the long run. Sure you might derive benefit, but Microsoft is the real beneficiary here, and they don’t even have any obligation to pay you.
  - TomVDB 8y ago
    "Is the current situation better for the customer than the one yesterday?" is the way I like to think about these things.
  - jodrellblank 8y ago
    Name an open source freemium project run by a for-profit company which /doesn't/ benefit the company more than the individual submitting patches?

tracker1 8y ago

Would it be relatively easy to shim to use Wine (where available)?

tbodt 8y ago
You could already use Mono with Wine
- voltagex_ 8y ago
  The dotnet installer still needs hacks, right?

wvenable 8y ago

If someone wanted to attempt it, it would make much more sense as a fork rather than part of the mainline.

gorn 8y ago
Well, he started the Mono Project :)
- mr_overalls 8y ago
  So he did. I feel as if I've arrived - I just got corrected by Miguel de Icaza. :-)

zoobab 8y ago

Use Python QT, it is portable. No need to invest time and effort in non-portable GUIs. And their whole .Net is full of patents.

qwerty456127 8y ago
PyQT can be considered a reasonable (and in many ways superior) alternative to WinForms but what about WPF? Is there a modern cross-platform non-browser declarative 2-way-binding MVVM desktop GUI toolkit? I use PyQT mysef but I really wish I could use binding instead of just handling events manually.
eliasdaler 8y ago
Why not just use Qt then?