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Dart is being used internally at Google for AdWords and other core products: https://www.dartlang.org/community/who-uses-dart https://www.dartlang.org/community

Dart is being used internally at Google for AdWords and other core products: https://www.dartlang.org/community/who-uses-dart https://www.dartlang.org/community/who-uses-dart Even if it's not popular elsewhere, with its use inside Google, it won't be going away anytime soon.

lern_too_spel 8y ago
AdWords previously used GWT, which is no longer maintained by Google. I get the feeling the AdWords team just really doesn't like JavaScript, which is understandable, but it doesn't say anything about whether AdWords will stick with the current non-JavaScript language du jour or move to another.
- forgot-my-pw 8y ago
  GWT served them well for 8 years. Now the Dart one is expected to last for the next 7+ years. Read this interview if you're interested to learn more on their reasoning: https://news.dartlang.org/2016/03/the-new-adwords-ui-uses-dart-we-asked.html https://news.dartlang.org/2016/03/the-new-adwords-ui-uses-da...
  - lern_too_spel 8y ago
    7+ years from early 2016, which means 4+ years today. Take it as you will. The point being that just because Google uses something for AdWords doesn't mean Google will maintain it for the long run. I might find other arguments more convincing.
    - stickfigure 8y ago
      All technologies will get replaced by something else eventually. Presentation technologies have a short shelf life. GWT is 12 years old now, that's quite a good run.
      - lern_too_spel 8y ago
        > GWT is 12 years old now And Google hasn't maintained it for five years now, which is the point.
- kyrra 8y ago
  History here is a bit important. GWT existed before jQuery was a thing. GWT was created for 2 reasons (from what I can tell): remove cross-browser differences and simplify development for a team that was already using Java.
- groestl 8y ago
  > GWT, which is no longer maintained by Google This is not entirely true, although the goal shifted over the years and progress (outside Google) is very slow. See J2CL, jsinterop, and elemental2.

lern_too_spel 8y ago

AdWords previously used GWT, which is no longer maintained by Google. I get the feeling the AdWords team just really doesn't like JavaScript, which is understandable, but it doesn't say anything about whether AdWords will stick with the current non-JavaScript language du jour or move to another.

forgot-my-pw 8y ago
GWT served them well for 8 years. Now the Dart one is expected to last for the next 7+ years. Read this interview if you're interested to learn more on their reasoning: https://news.dartlang.org/2016/03/the-new-adwords-ui-uses-dart-we-asked.html https://news.dartlang.org/2016/03/the-new-adwords-ui-uses-da...
- lern_too_spel 8y ago
  7+ years from early 2016, which means 4+ years today. Take it as you will. The point being that just because Google uses something for AdWords doesn't mean Google will maintain it for the long run. I might find other arguments more convincing.
  - stickfigure 8y ago
    All technologies will get replaced by something else eventually. Presentation technologies have a short shelf life. GWT is 12 years old now, that's quite a good run.
    - lern_too_spel 8y ago
      > GWT is 12 years old now And Google hasn't maintained it for five years now, which is the point.
kyrra 8y ago
History here is a bit important. GWT existed before jQuery was a thing. GWT was created for 2 reasons (from what I can tell): remove cross-browser differences and simplify development for a team that was already using Java.
groestl 8y ago
> GWT, which is no longer maintained by Google This is not entirely true, although the goal shifted over the years and progress (outside Google) is very slow. See J2CL, jsinterop, and elemental2.