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Maybe this will help. True story. I just moved into my rented house and discovered the CCTV outside my front door, in public view, but also on my property, is

Maybe this will help. True story. I just moved into my rented house and discovered the CCTV outside my front door, in public view, but also on my property, is actually monitored by the landlord, not me. - you = me - software = house - telemetry = CCTV

IMTDb 8y ago
Also a true story I just entered a new mall and discovered that they monitors how many people come in and out (and at what time) in order to ensure they have enough cashier. - you = me - software = mall - monitoring basic metrics in order to improve the service = counting people in/out This is completely OK, and somehow everybody likes that they increase the number of cashier during busy time. Just like the mall, you do not own the software, you juste have the right to enter/use it.
- laythea 8y ago
  It's not sending back "the software". It is sending back data about you. And who knows what. Indeed, human greed is faster moving than regulation, so its no wonder we are in the transition phase. And if you tell me all this identifiable data about me is safe, this is simply not true. Safe from motivated 3rd parties, then this is also not true. Unfortunately, we do not live in this ideal world where data is used for only good. We live in a world where people get away with undetected overreach all the time.
  - svick 8y ago
    > It is sending back data about you. And who knows what. This is specifically about telemetry in an open source code. If you want to know what data it sends, you can look for yourself.
naikrovek 8y ago
> my rented house > my property Those two things don't jive. It's your property OR you rent it. Not both.
- Decathect 8y ago
  Those aren’t exclusive attributes, either colloquially or legally. As a renter you have a variety of rights (including to “quiet enjoyment” of the property) that prevent, for example, the legal owner from entering the premises without advance notice and a legitimate reason. Similarly, while exterior cameras aren’t explicitly illegal, interior cameras are. Don’t allow simplistic maxims to occlude your tenant rights.
- laythea 8y ago
  They do indeed, jive.

IMTDb 8y ago

Also a true story I just entered a new mall and discovered that they monitors how many people come in and out (and at what time) in order to ensure they have enough cashier. - you = me - software = mall - monitoring basic metrics in order to improve the service = counting people in/out This is completely OK, and somehow everybody likes that they increase the number of cashier during busy time. Just like the mall, you do not own the software, you juste have the right to enter/use it.

laythea 8y ago
It's not sending back "the software". It is sending back data about you. And who knows what. Indeed, human greed is faster moving than regulation, so its no wonder we are in the transition phase. And if you tell me all this identifiable data about me is safe, this is simply not true. Safe from motivated 3rd parties, then this is also not true. Unfortunately, we do not live in this ideal world where data is used for only good. We live in a world where people get away with undetected overreach all the time.
- svick 8y ago
  > It is sending back data about you. And who knows what. This is specifically about telemetry in an open source code. If you want to know what data it sends, you can look for yourself.

naikrovek 8y ago

> my rented house > my property Those two things don't jive. It's your property OR you rent it. Not both.

Decathect 8y ago
Those aren’t exclusive attributes, either colloquially or legally. As a renter you have a variety of rights (including to “quiet enjoyment” of the property) that prevent, for example, the legal owner from entering the premises without advance notice and a legitimate reason. Similarly, while exterior cameras aren’t explicitly illegal, interior cameras are. Don’t allow simplistic maxims to occlude your tenant rights.
laythea 8y ago
They do indeed, jive.