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They all fake it. Even those few that are taken with a phone are so far removed from what a phone owner has, I think it would be more honest to label them with

They all fake it. Even those few that are taken with a phone are so far removed from what a phone owner has, I think it would be more honest to label them with a huge "FAKED photo" banner. Here's an example for iPhone where they're using some complex mounting frame to connect a 35mm prime lens to the front of an iPhone. The phone becomes more like a smart camera back. https://petapixel.com/2017/06/30/truth-shot-iphone-style-ads/ https://petapixel.com/2017/06/30/truth-shot-iphone-style-ads... I call it fraudulent, and should be in breach of advertising regulations.

striking 8y ago
OnePlus doesn't, at least https://photos.oneplus.com/gallery https://photos.oneplus.com/gallery
- reaperducer 8y ago
  For years Apple was the only smartphone company that didn't have the disclaimer text "Screen images simulated" at the bottom of its TV commercials. Then it started using the disclaimer "Screen sequences shortened." Now I think it's like every other phone manufacturer with "Screen images simulated." Sad.
  - FireBeyond 8y ago
    Hah. Apple had to be sued, or threatened with a suit, in order to add the disclaimer in the first place, because they were talking about how amazing the iPhone's performance was... with shortened screen sequences.
dwighttk 8y ago
a) your article shows that there is a disclaimer on the ads about external equipment and shows a picture that it is possible to mount crazy lenses on a phone, but you are left to connect the dots yourself. b) there is a categorical difference between using a different camera and presenting it as if it came from the phone and using external equipment to supplement the phone.
- NeedMoreTea 8y ago
  a) According to another comment there's a disclaimer there too: "The contents within the screen and images are simulated for illustrative purposes only". Most will never see it as those disclaimers are always buried as far as they think able to get away with. usually small point font, grey on grey, and on screen for too little time to read if it's a video. b) Not really. Whether "Shot with iPhone", or DSLR pics cropped to the phone screen, they both imply to Ms Average that they could take their phone out of their purse and achieve the same results. Otherwise why bother with campaigns like that? Unless Ms Average has a bunch of slave flashes and lenses in there too it cynically misrepresents. A simple tripod or monopod mount would be OK, as that still fairly represents "what's in the box". Like the GP noted, phone cameras are surprisingly good within their well known limitations. They could achieve perfectly good, but honest, advertising photos just by staying within those limits. They would just never achieve the results an SLR with large, fast prime lens, and large sensor, or even arrays of additional equipment plus phone could. A vague disclaimer does not, and should not, replace honesty and presenting what's "in the box".
dogecoinbase 8y ago
This appears to be speculation that Apple is doing this, without any evidence.
kgermino 8y ago
> Here's an example for iPhone where they're using some complex mounting frame to connect a 35mm prime lens to the front of an iPhone. The phone becomes more like a smart camera back. That’s... not an iPhone, though the video may have been created for a smartphone ad (I don’t know and I don’t think the video said) In fact I didn’t see anything in that which specifically says Apple does it, and I’m pretty sure that Apple has said several times that they use an iPhone without any special lenses or attachments.

striking 8y ago

OnePlus doesn't, at least https://photos.oneplus.com/gallery https://photos.oneplus.com/gallery

reaperducer 8y ago
For years Apple was the only smartphone company that didn't have the disclaimer text "Screen images simulated" at the bottom of its TV commercials. Then it started using the disclaimer "Screen sequences shortened." Now I think it's like every other phone manufacturer with "Screen images simulated." Sad.
- FireBeyond 8y ago
  Hah. Apple had to be sued, or threatened with a suit, in order to add the disclaimer in the first place, because they were talking about how amazing the iPhone's performance was... with shortened screen sequences.

dwighttk 8y ago

a) your article shows that there is a disclaimer on the ads about external equipment and shows a picture that it is possible to mount crazy lenses on a phone, but you are left to connect the dots yourself. b) there is a categorical difference between using a different camera and presenting it as if it came from the phone and using external equipment to supplement the phone.

NeedMoreTea 8y ago
a) According to another comment there's a disclaimer there too: "The contents within the screen and images are simulated for illustrative purposes only". Most will never see it as those disclaimers are always buried as far as they think able to get away with. usually small point font, grey on grey, and on screen for too little time to read if it's a video. b) Not really. Whether "Shot with iPhone", or DSLR pics cropped to the phone screen, they both imply to Ms Average that they could take their phone out of their purse and achieve the same results. Otherwise why bother with campaigns like that? Unless Ms Average has a bunch of slave flashes and lenses in there too it cynically misrepresents. A simple tripod or monopod mount would be OK, as that still fairly represents "what's in the box". Like the GP noted, phone cameras are surprisingly good within their well known limitations. They could achieve perfectly good, but honest, advertising photos just by staying within those limits. They would just never achieve the results an SLR with large, fast prime lens, and large sensor, or even arrays of additional equipment plus phone could. A vague disclaimer does not, and should not, replace honesty and presenting what's "in the box".

dogecoinbase 8y ago

This appears to be speculation that Apple is doing this, without any evidence.

kgermino 8y ago

> Here's an example for iPhone where they're using some complex mounting frame to connect a 35mm prime lens to the front of an iPhone. The phone becomes more like a smart camera back. That’s... not an iPhone, though the video may have been created for a smartphone ad (I don’t know and I don’t think the video said) In fact I didn’t see anything in that which specifically says Apple does it, and I’m pretty sure that Apple has said several times that they use an iPhone without any special lenses or attachments.