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> If a company approves taking customers to strip clubs then there's no reason not to itemize it as such. Who says it wasn't itemized as such? We know nothing
by XCabbage 8y ago
> If a company approves taking customers to strip clubs then there's no reason not to itemize it as such.
Who says it wasn't itemized as such? We know nothing about how the expenses system in question works, and a hierarchical submission that looks like
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# Steakhouse business dinner
* Client taxi fare to steakhouse - $xxx
* Steakhouse bill - $xxx
* Strip club bill - $xxx
* Client taxi fare to hotel - $xxx
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with a receipt for each seems perfectly reasonable (to me; apparently you think that it's dishonest for 3 out of 4 of those items to be there) and is consistent with the nonspecific description of events in the article. Evidently, the employee provided enough information for it to be clear that this was a strip club bill, because the auditing system could tell that it was a strip club bill. In order to create a narrative of dishonesty, you're having to add in details that aren't specified in the article and seem to fly in the face of the fact that an audit looking purely at the information submitted identified that it was a strip club bill.
- jakobegger 8y agoThe story is about how AI helped discover fraud, so presumably it was not expensed correctly, but the all seeing AI went on the internet and discovered that even though the receipt is titled "Sams Fine Steak House", the address on the receipt from the limo company was a strip club. Or something like that.
- XCabbage 8y agoMaybe I'm more cynical, but I presume that the AI just looked at the strip club receipt, identified as a strip club because the submitter had made no attempt to hide that fact, then determined that according to some official company expenses policy it was impermissible to bill for strip clubs, and then the AI's masters triumphantly declared it to be "fraud" - without worrying about niggly little questions like whether the employee had read the policy, knew the policy existed, or even had access to the policy, nor whether the employee had been authorised by their manager to submit the expense claim despite it violating the written policy.
- jakobegger 8y agoDo you really need a formal company policy to know that you shouldn't expense a strip club?
- XCabbage 8y agoWhy shouldn't I, if the strip club bill was racked up for business purposes? My employer doesn't expect me to take clients to strip clubs, but if they did, I'd damn well expect to be allowed to expense them.
- jakobegger 8y agoI'm not totally sure you aren't trolling me. Somehow I just assumed it was universally agreed upon that strip clubs are not something that you go to for business reason. And if a sales person invites a client to a strip club, they would do so understanding that it's a questionable thing to do, and that they would be smart enough not to file it in their expense report. Even if their manager said it's okay. I mean, that would just be a perfect reason for the company to fire both the employee and the manager for colluding to defraud a totally ethical company.
- ambicapter 8y agoAre you in sales?
- jstarfish 8y agoYou are clearly not in sales. > I just assumed it was universally agreed upon that strip clubs are not something that you go to for business reason. Not for personal benefit, but in the interest of winning over a client, coke-fueled stripper parties are fair game.
- jakobegger 8y agoDo you recommend putting the receipt from the coke dealer in your expense report as well? (As long as there's no company policy against narcotics in expense reports, obviously)