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The problem is that if Firefox is getting this default wrong, what else are they getting wrong? And it should realize user state is sacred, I would even expect

by watt 8y ago

The problem is that if Firefox is getting this default wrong, what else are they getting wrong? And it should realize user state is sacred, I would even expect if I quit browser with something written in the address bar (or search bar, etc), when it starts up again, it should be able to preserve this half-entered user input!

askmike 8y ago
I'm very happy that when I close my browser it kills all my tabs. If I really want something back I just view it from the history. > I would even expect if I quit browser with something written in the address bar (or search bar, etc), when it starts up again, it should be able to preserve this half-entered user input! I'm pretty sure no one expects nor wants this. You're definitely in a minority here. The problem you describe isn't very technical, it's simply that you want something else than most people else and you don't want to take the time to configure your browser to how you want it to behave.
- QasimK 8y ago
  I’m pretty sure watt is right...
- vvillena 8y ago
  Lots of people actually expect that. It's how phone apps work. There's no concept of "closing an app" in the iOS and Android guidelines. You just get the app out of the way. I think the lack of improvements in desktop UX in the last 10 years is making every desktop OS to slowly adopt mobile UX conventions. Some of those new conventions are a step back.
mathw 8y ago
I'm sure I remember Chrome not preserving session state as its default setting either. It's been so long since I configured either of them though...
Silhouette 8y ago
But this isn't wrong, it's just your entirely subjective personal preference being different to someone else's. Personally, I don't like it when browsers implicitly keep tracking things when I close the application and then fire up some half-baked version of the same stuff when I come back later. If I want to remember where I am, I can easily bookmark some or all of my tabs. Firefox has had a particular problem in recent versions where it seems to think it crashed on the previous shutdown, even though there was no user-visible evidence of this, and then tries to restore the previous session even when it otherwise wouldn't. That's not helpful if your previous session involved shopping for surprise Christmas presents for the SO who is now standing behind you as you open the browser again several hours later for some entirely unrelated purpose, in a totally hypothetical example.
LandR 8y ago
> when it starts up again, it should be able to preserve this half-entered user input! I wouldn't expect this at all!

by watt 8y ago

askmike 8y ago

I'm very happy that when I close my browser it kills all my tabs. If I really want something back I just view it from the history. > I would even expect if I quit browser with something written in the address bar (or search bar, etc), when it starts up again, it should be able to preserve this half-entered user input! I'm pretty sure no one expects nor wants this. You're definitely in a minority here. The problem you describe isn't very technical, it's simply that you want something else than most people else and you don't want to take the time to configure your browser to how you want it to behave.

QasimK 8y ago
I’m pretty sure watt is right...
vvillena 8y ago
Lots of people actually expect that. It's how phone apps work. There's no concept of "closing an app" in the iOS and Android guidelines. You just get the app out of the way. I think the lack of improvements in desktop UX in the last 10 years is making every desktop OS to slowly adopt mobile UX conventions. Some of those new conventions are a step back.

mathw 8y ago

I'm sure I remember Chrome not preserving session state as its default setting either. It's been so long since I configured either of them though...

Silhouette 8y ago

But this isn't wrong, it's just your entirely subjective personal preference being different to someone else's. Personally, I don't like it when browsers implicitly keep tracking things when I close the application and then fire up some half-baked version of the same stuff when I come back later. If I want to remember where I am, I can easily bookmark some or all of my tabs. Firefox has had a particular problem in recent versions where it seems to think it crashed on the previous shutdown, even though there was no user-visible evidence of this, and then tries to restore the previous session even when it otherwise wouldn't. That's not helpful if your previous session involved shopping for surprise Christmas presents for the SO who is now standing behind you as you open the browser again several hours later for some entirely unrelated purpose, in a totally hypothetical example.

LandR 8y ago

> when it starts up again, it should be able to preserve this half-entered user input! I wouldn't expect this at all!