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What an irony. I've been using firefox for 10+ years and now it is faster, uses less resourses and doesn't crash. As a user, this is the browser I have been wai

What an irony. I've been using firefox for 10+ years and now it is faster, uses less resourses and doesn't crash. As a user, this is the browser I have been waiting for. Yes, dev tools features could be expanded as well as the plugin franework(vimperator!).But these are non-issues for regular users.

mk89 8y ago
The only thing I disliked in so many years is the bunch of imcompatible extensions due to the switch to the new plugin system. For example, I was unable to use NoScript, because it didn't really work well. Still, this is something you can forgive considering that for more than 15 years they released always good software.
- cf498 8y ago
  No it is not. If all the alternatives werent so dismal I would have wiped FF from all my machines when they first switched to quantum and then had no extended support frame for ESR52. It was a slap in the face of the core user base and they did it carelessly. They did not have the necessary information in place early enough and did not fix bugs that prevented people from porting their addons before the end of the last pre quantum ESR. They more then deserve where they are today
  - mk89 8y ago
    Do you ever wonder why the alternatives are so dismal? Man, a web browser that works on all the current existing devices on the planet is not something that I would consider trivial, at all. Internet Explorer needed a brand new operating system that forces it for anything you do to regain some momentum... Apple has to offer obviously stuff that you can't do easily with other browsers, like integration with the password manager, etc... Google Chrome... We will see what happens in 10 years. They are making more and evident what they developed that browser for.
    - cf498 8y ago
      I was talking about the privacy aspect.
snaky 8y ago
> now it is faster, uses less resourses and doesn't crash XUL extensions removed, power users are angry and leaving. And the power users were the main driving force for Firefox adoption - mostly not by themselves, but as influencers for people around them. What an irony indeed.
- johnny22 8y ago
  so they switched to browers that have less powerful extensions? No current popular browser matches firefox's extension power, even after the change.
  - snaky 8y ago
    They switched to browser with the same powerless extensions indeed. Because the difference is no more. An attitude of Mozilla Firefox team is against power users clearly for so long, and that's an only logical outcome.
    - johnny22 8y ago
      that is nonsense. Mozilla offers more than Chrome even via web extensions.

mk89 8y ago

The only thing I disliked in so many years is the bunch of imcompatible extensions due to the switch to the new plugin system. For example, I was unable to use NoScript, because it didn't really work well. Still, this is something you can forgive considering that for more than 15 years they released always good software.

cf498 8y ago
No it is not. If all the alternatives werent so dismal I would have wiped FF from all my machines when they first switched to quantum and then had no extended support frame for ESR52. It was a slap in the face of the core user base and they did it carelessly. They did not have the necessary information in place early enough and did not fix bugs that prevented people from porting their addons before the end of the last pre quantum ESR. They more then deserve where they are today
- mk89 8y ago
  Do you ever wonder why the alternatives are so dismal? Man, a web browser that works on all the current existing devices on the planet is not something that I would consider trivial, at all. Internet Explorer needed a brand new operating system that forces it for anything you do to regain some momentum... Apple has to offer obviously stuff that you can't do easily with other browsers, like integration with the password manager, etc... Google Chrome... We will see what happens in 10 years. They are making more and evident what they developed that browser for.
  - cf498 8y ago
    I was talking about the privacy aspect.

snaky 8y ago

> now it is faster, uses less resourses and doesn't crash XUL extensions removed, power users are angry and leaving. And the power users were the main driving force for Firefox adoption - mostly not by themselves, but as influencers for people around them. What an irony indeed.

johnny22 8y ago
so they switched to browers that have less powerful extensions? No current popular browser matches firefox's extension power, even after the change.
- snaky 8y ago
  They switched to browser with the same powerless extensions indeed. Because the difference is no more. An attitude of Mozilla Firefox team is against power users clearly for so long, and that's an only logical outcome.
  - johnny22 8y ago
    that is nonsense. Mozilla offers more than Chrome even via web extensions.