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LastPass is one of my least liked most used tools. Everything about the implentation feels second rate; slow, unreliable login capture, unreliable form fill, oc

LastPass is one of my least liked most used tools. Everything about the implentation feels second rate; slow, unreliable login capture, unreliable form fill, occasional inability to edit records, buried password copy, clunky UI, inappropriate modal nagging in browser and app... Most times I use it I am cursing it. I tried to switch to pass, and I'm not sure if it was something to do with how I imported but it didn't list my passwords and the browser plugin was clunky and didn't work. Anyone had success with pass/gopass. Bitwarden seems like a happy Medium, I'd rather not do my password ops. The pricing seems fair (and rather optional). I'll try it, thanks.

mrhappyunhappy 8y ago
I have the same disappointing experience with LastPass and have grown tired of it. One of these days I will do something about it!
- stingraycharles 8y ago
  Check out Keepass! Rather than syncing directly into a Cloud, it allows you to store a database file into any location. It supports MFA (e.g. by combining a password with a secret file, or a Yubikey). And everything is open-source. I like the model a lot, because it solves the "database ownership" issue, where your Password provider (be it LastPass, 1Password, etc) becomes in itself a weak link.
  - Cthulhu_ 8y ago
    I used to use KeePass but the lack of a proper crossplatform UI eventually broke it for me; KeePassX on linux looked and performed terribly, the Android app was just bad, etc etc etc. I switched to 1password which - at least at the time - offered a web-based fallback hosted from your own dropbox. Plus at the time you owned the data and were responsible for storing and syncing it. Dropbox support came out of the box but if you want you can use a local file.
    - stingraycharles 8y ago
      Yeah you're right, I believe it's based on .NET so on Linux you'll have to use Mono. For the plugin ecosystem, that's suboptimal because you'll have to rebuild a lot of plugins from scratch. I used to be a 1password user, but they were pushing their premium, cloud-based offering a lot and lacked Yubikey support so I switched away.
    - falcolas 8y ago
      Have another look at KeePass. They recently got a native Mac implementation, and I seem to recall seeing a new one for Linux at the time. On the Mac, KeePass now feels like a better experience than having to pay a subscription for 1password.
      - jsmit 8y ago
        Or MacPass for macOS, which was a very slick alternative to the KeePass application at the time.
    - resonious 8y ago
      KeePassXC works great for me on Linux, Windows, Mac, and Android.
  - StavrosK 8y ago
    I'm a super happy user of KeePass too, and KeePass2Android is the best password management app I've ever used.
  - jamescampbell 8y ago
    Keepass is great, but it is somewhat slower and more clicks to get passwords into forms as opposed to 1Password or LastPass.
  - cicero 8y ago
    I have used Keypass for years. It is not as convenient as some of the alternatives, but I trust it more.
- nvarsj 8y ago
  I'm in the same boat. The user experience on it is terrible now. The worse thing that happens to me is if I generate a password, and then Lastpass doesn't save it! It feels like a 50% shot it will actually save the generated password. I have nearly 1000 passwords stored in it now, so it's going to be a huge pain to migrate.
  - fredley 8y ago
    This is by far the worst. I have LP set up with a shortcut + fingerprint tap on my MBP, which works great until I'm generating a password, which never gets saved. I have to remember to get my vault page open ready to fill in before I generate the password, because if I generate one from the toolbar dropdown I'll never see it again. Ugh.
- xtracto 8y ago
  LastPass Mobile UI seems to be intentionally crippled ( https://vgy.me/9r29bm.jpg https://vgy.me/9r29bm.jpg ) I assume because they want you to download the app, pushing you to purchase their license. If you load the same site using "load desktop site" the UI gets fixed.
  - _grep_ 8y ago
    The Android app is still very frustrating to use.
  - vernie 8y ago
    Access through the apps has been free for a couple of years now.
konschubert 8y ago
LastPass has corporate mismanagement written all over it. It's ridiculous how bad their product is considering how big they were.
- silasdavis 8y ago
  It is puzzling. My feeling is that for quite some time they had a lead on features (cross-platform, browser overlay, secret sharing) - particularly the combination of features whereas competitors always seemed to have a subset. That's what reluctantly kept me with them. The software quality does just seem quite bad though.
omnimus 8y ago
Bitwarden is best. I hope they will not get bankrupt from free users. Its funny it is cheapes but also works the best out off all managers i tried. Dashlane is good but its so much more expensive. Bitwarden will slowly kill most of the managers if they keep up the great work.
gketuma 8y ago
Has anyone tried ButterCup (https://buttercup.pw/ https://buttercup.pw/). I've been looking at the codebase and it seems really solid.
- alexeldeib 8y ago
  This looks really nice. Wonder if there are any security reviews, I'm tempted to try it.
- silasdavis 8y ago
  I will add this to my password manager binge (because I know how to party). I did find the NPM build a bit frightening though - module 956/1xxx built... Also that site looks like it should be selling something but I see no money hole - should I be worried?

mrhappyunhappy 8y ago

I have the same disappointing experience with LastPass and have grown tired of it. One of these days I will do something about it!

stingraycharles 8y ago
Check out Keepass! Rather than syncing directly into a Cloud, it allows you to store a database file into any location. It supports MFA (e.g. by combining a password with a secret file, or a Yubikey). And everything is open-source. I like the model a lot, because it solves the "database ownership" issue, where your Password provider (be it LastPass, 1Password, etc) becomes in itself a weak link.
- Cthulhu_ 8y ago
  I used to use KeePass but the lack of a proper crossplatform UI eventually broke it for me; KeePassX on linux looked and performed terribly, the Android app was just bad, etc etc etc. I switched to 1password which - at least at the time - offered a web-based fallback hosted from your own dropbox. Plus at the time you owned the data and were responsible for storing and syncing it. Dropbox support came out of the box but if you want you can use a local file.
  - stingraycharles 8y ago
    Yeah you're right, I believe it's based on .NET so on Linux you'll have to use Mono. For the plugin ecosystem, that's suboptimal because you'll have to rebuild a lot of plugins from scratch. I used to be a 1password user, but they were pushing their premium, cloud-based offering a lot and lacked Yubikey support so I switched away.
  - falcolas 8y ago
    Have another look at KeePass. They recently got a native Mac implementation, and I seem to recall seeing a new one for Linux at the time. On the Mac, KeePass now feels like a better experience than having to pay a subscription for 1password.
    - jsmit 8y ago
      Or MacPass for macOS, which was a very slick alternative to the KeePass application at the time.
  - resonious 8y ago
    KeePassXC works great for me on Linux, Windows, Mac, and Android.
- StavrosK 8y ago
  I'm a super happy user of KeePass too, and KeePass2Android is the best password management app I've ever used.
- jamescampbell 8y ago
  Keepass is great, but it is somewhat slower and more clicks to get passwords into forms as opposed to 1Password or LastPass.
- cicero 8y ago
  I have used Keypass for years. It is not as convenient as some of the alternatives, but I trust it more.
nvarsj 8y ago
I'm in the same boat. The user experience on it is terrible now. The worse thing that happens to me is if I generate a password, and then Lastpass doesn't save it! It feels like a 50% shot it will actually save the generated password. I have nearly 1000 passwords stored in it now, so it's going to be a huge pain to migrate.
- fredley 8y ago
  This is by far the worst. I have LP set up with a shortcut + fingerprint tap on my MBP, which works great until I'm generating a password, which never gets saved. I have to remember to get my vault page open ready to fill in before I generate the password, because if I generate one from the toolbar dropdown I'll never see it again. Ugh.
xtracto 8y ago
LastPass Mobile UI seems to be intentionally crippled ( https://vgy.me/9r29bm.jpg https://vgy.me/9r29bm.jpg ) I assume because they want you to download the app, pushing you to purchase their license. If you load the same site using "load desktop site" the UI gets fixed.
- _grep_ 8y ago
  The Android app is still very frustrating to use.
- vernie 8y ago
  Access through the apps has been free for a couple of years now.

konschubert 8y ago

LastPass has corporate mismanagement written all over it. It's ridiculous how bad their product is considering how big they were.

silasdavis 8y ago
It is puzzling. My feeling is that for quite some time they had a lead on features (cross-platform, browser overlay, secret sharing) - particularly the combination of features whereas competitors always seemed to have a subset. That's what reluctantly kept me with them. The software quality does just seem quite bad though.

omnimus 8y ago

Bitwarden is best. I hope they will not get bankrupt from free users. Its funny it is cheapes but also works the best out off all managers i tried. Dashlane is good but its so much more expensive. Bitwarden will slowly kill most of the managers if they keep up the great work.

gketuma 8y ago

Has anyone tried ButterCup (https://buttercup.pw/ https://buttercup.pw/). I've been looking at the codebase and it seems really solid.

alexeldeib 8y ago
This looks really nice. Wonder if there are any security reviews, I'm tempted to try it.
silasdavis 8y ago
I will add this to my password manager binge (because I know how to party). I did find the NPM build a bit frightening though - module 956/1xxx built... Also that site looks like it should be selling something but I see no money hole - should I be worried?