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>Israel does better than anyone else in the world at minimizing civilian causalities, but accidents are a fact of war. Israel regularly shoots and kills unarme
by cazum 8y ago
>Israel does better than anyone else in the world at minimizing civilian causalities, but accidents are a fact of war.
Israel regularly shoots and kills unarmed civilians for standing too close to a fence.
>So, what other options does Israel have? Let the combatants do whatever they want?
They are unarmed civilians, standing near a fence.
>Are you seriously implying someone should not work for the Israeli military because of civilian accidents?
Yes, one should not involve themselves in a violent force that regularly murders civilians for standing too close to a fence.
>What's your endgame here? Israel should give up and let millions of people be murdered?
They can start by not murdering the desperate civilians protesting the blockade and destruction of their homes by standing too close to a fence.
>he would rather millions of Israeli citizens get murdered?
Millions of Israelis are not at risk of being murdered by the unarmed civilians standing near fences.
>The only moral thing to do here is do an even better job at this type of software to make the civilian casualty ratio even better.
The most moral thing to do would be to pressure Israel to stop murdering civilians for standing too near a fence.
- ars 8y agoYou mean these civilians https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/9xla6y/israeli_soldier_removed_flag_with_an_ied_planted/ https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/9xla6y/israe... who just wanted a flag near the fence? Or maybe these https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/959z60/hamas_militants_fire_at_idf_forces_on_the_gaza/ https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/959z60/hamas... ? This "story" that they were a bunch of unarmed civilians near a fence is completely fictional. It was actually a bunch of combatants mixed in with civilians, and Israel worked very hard to be selective. The accidents are terrible, no doubt about it, but no other army in the history of war has done better.
- ryanlol 8y agoIt's weird how both of the videos you show in defense of civilian deaths caused by Israel involve Israeli military being attacked. If there were no attacks on civilians, that certainly makes you wonder if they could've avoided conflict by simply not sending their troops there.
- ars 8y ago> If there were no attacks on civilians, that certainly makes you wonder if they could've avoided conflict by simply not sending their troops there. And then Hamas agents would breach the fence and enter Israel. And you think that's a good idea, why exactly?
- cazum 8y agoBoth of your links involve armed combatants fighting IDF. nobody is calling those people civilians. I'm calling these people civilians: https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.haaretz.com/amp/israel-news/video-shows-16-year-old-gazan-shot-by-israeli-soldiers-while-waving-hands-1.6463970 https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.haaretz.com/amp/israel-news/... https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-video-shows-palestinian-shot-by-israeli-sniper-to-sound-of-cheers-1.5988677 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-video-shows-pal... https://mobile.twitter.com/dcipalestine/status/1017882226275434497 https://mobile.twitter.com/dcipalestine/status/1017882226275...
- javabean22 8y agoWhen some people stand near a fence, and some other people breach a fence, the bullets can hit innocent people by accident, you understand that, right? So why do you pretend like you don't? IDF could kill everyone in GAZA if they wanted too, they don't, quite the opposite. Deaths are accidental. On the other hand most of the Palestinians would gladly murder every Jew. Standing near a fence: https://images1.ynet.co.il//PicServer5/2018/04/27/8496483/84964750991186640360no.jpg https://images1.ynet.co.il//PicServer5/2018/04/27/8496483/84...