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If your main concern is the sheer number of username/unique password combos, pick a good password manager that works well across the devices you use. I’ve liter

by giobox 8y ago

If your main concern is the sheer number of username/unique password combos, pick a good password manager that works well across the devices you use. I’ve literally stopped caring about this aspect of my family’s online life thanks to 1Password. That iOS 12 added OS level integration for the service was the icing on the cake for me.

2arrs2ells 8y ago
Agreed. I never would have thought that the problem that motivated Persona would have been solved this way... but the combination of TouchID/Face ID and 1Password has made account setup/maintenance sufficiently frictionless.
- lisper 8y ago
  Until 1password gets compromised. https://thehackernews.com/2017/02/password-manager-apps.html https://thehackernews.com/2017/02/password-manager-apps.html
jacquesm 8y ago
That's only part of it. The other part is that - invariably - they get hacked.
- bpanon 8y ago
  Worth noting that they encrypted end-to-end encrypted. So they would have to get their storage system hacked as well as push out malicious clients to collect secret keys in order to obtain your passwords.
- baxtr 8y ago
  That’s called life. There are risks. And, no one forced you to use such a platform, just look for another place
ryandrake 8y ago
Using a password manager (which I do) is a valid coping mechanism, but does not fix the root concern: for 90% of these cases, one shouldn't even need an account. I don't want personalization. I don't want some new identity to manage. I don't want a relationship with your service. I just want to browse the goddamned web! How did we get to this point where in order to use the Internet you have to sign up for all these free accounts and generate all these ridiculous username/password combinations? Oh, and OAuth is a similar coping mechanism. You shouldn't need to log in to something to browse the web!
- onion2k 8y ago
  How did we get to this point where in order to use the Internet you have to sign up for all these free accounts and generate all these ridiculous username/password combinations We stopped using sites built by amateurs in their spare time and demanded "beautiful user experiences" that we didn't pay anything for. That costs money, so people who wanted to solve that "pain" looked for business models that meant they could deliver what people want without charging directly. Hence we have an Internet driven by advertising and privacy violation.
  - Randy238480 8y ago
    https://www.quora.com/How-does-DuckDuckGo-show-me-the-ads-that-are-relevant-to-me-when-it-doesnt-track-me https://www.quora.com/How-does-DuckDuckGo-show-me-the-ads-th... This model doesn't seem bad, advertising without tracking.
  - TeMPOraL 8y ago
    I propose the alternative view: we did no such thing. We didn't demand shit. We only chose from what was available. People trying to make money on-line have, over time, perfected both the design and the business models. At every step of the way, we had a choice between status quo and this new service that's prettier and offers more, for free, with user-hostile monetization scheme that wasn't immediately apparent. Step by step, we've been had, like the frog in the boiling frog fable.
  - AznHisoka 8y ago

by giobox 8y ago

2arrs2ells 8y ago

Agreed. I never would have thought that the problem that motivated Persona would have been solved this way... but the combination of TouchID/Face ID and 1Password has made account setup/maintenance sufficiently frictionless.

lisper 8y ago
Until 1password gets compromised. https://thehackernews.com/2017/02/password-manager-apps.html https://thehackernews.com/2017/02/password-manager-apps.html

jacquesm 8y ago

That's only part of it. The other part is that - invariably - they get hacked.

bpanon 8y ago
Worth noting that they encrypted end-to-end encrypted. So they would have to get their storage system hacked as well as push out malicious clients to collect secret keys in order to obtain your passwords.
baxtr 8y ago
That’s called life. There are risks. And, no one forced you to use such a platform, just look for another place

ryandrake 8y ago

Using a password manager (which I do) is a valid coping mechanism, but does not fix the root concern: for 90% of these cases, one shouldn't even need an account. I don't want personalization. I don't want some new identity to manage. I don't want a relationship with your service. I just want to browse the goddamned web! How did we get to this point where in order to use the Internet you have to sign up for all these free accounts and generate all these ridiculous username/password combinations? Oh, and OAuth is a similar coping mechanism. You shouldn't need to log in to something to browse the web!

onion2k 8y ago
How did we get to this point where in order to use the Internet you have to sign up for all these free accounts and generate all these ridiculous username/password combinations We stopped using sites built by amateurs in their spare time and demanded "beautiful user experiences" that we didn't pay anything for. That costs money, so people who wanted to solve that "pain" looked for business models that meant they could deliver what people want without charging directly. Hence we have an Internet driven by advertising and privacy violation.
- Randy238480 8y ago
  https://www.quora.com/How-does-DuckDuckGo-show-me-the-ads-that-are-relevant-to-me-when-it-doesnt-track-me https://www.quora.com/How-does-DuckDuckGo-show-me-the-ads-th... This model doesn't seem bad, advertising without tracking.
- TeMPOraL 8y ago
  I propose the alternative view: we did no such thing. We didn't demand shit. We only chose from what was available. People trying to make money on-line have, over time, perfected both the design and the business models. At every step of the way, we had a choice between status quo and this new service that's prettier and offers more, for free, with user-hostile monetization scheme that wasn't immediately apparent. Step by step, we've been had, like the frog in the boiling frog fable.
- AznHisoka 8y ago