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Murdering dissidents while they are in other countries doesn't happen all of the time, no. That's why it's news.
by Touche 8y ago
Murdering dissidents while they are in other countries doesn't happen all of the time, no. That's why it's news.
- chrisco255 8y agoIt certainly happens: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/britain-charges-two-russians-with-attempted-murder-of-ex-spy-with-nerve-agent/2018/09/05/db99c5c8-b0f7-11e8-a20b-5f4f84429666_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f21fb8fab484 https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/britain-charges-... We're hearing more about Khashoggi because he was a journalist, I suppose.
- Touche 8y agoI didn't say it doesn't happen. I said it doesn't happen all of the time. The incident you linked to was a big story, I remember it. If these things happened all of the time they wouldn't be reported in national papers. A mugging in San Francisco isn't in the Washington Post.
- cronix 8y agoBut we only really hear about the failures, or when the mission didn't go according to plan and someone was caught. When it does go according to plan, no one knows about it, or at least there usually isn't enough evidence to be able to attribute blame.
- Touche 8y agoHow can a person disappear from the planet without anyone knowing about it? When it's within the guilty country that's one thing, they can suppress the information from getting out. But to travel to another country and kill someone that doesn't really work.
- cronix 8y agoGovt's don't usually announce when a spy goes missing.
- spiritcat 8y agoand because he was wearing an apple watch
- ArchTypical 8y ago> because he was a journalist He was a columnist for The Washington Post. He was known for having interviewed Osama Bin Laden a couple times. News was slow and after the Chinese trade imbalance/conflict (finally someone stepped up to address it), so it looked like there was news to be had against another objectively-bad-government. Even if just to see what Trump might do to resolve (or sabotage) our uncomfortably close relationship. Nope, he just tried to promote it like the moron he is, in context of the assassination. I really wish he woulda dumped another of these 19th century (depending on when they became stable) strategic allies, as I'm certain there's 0 chance the next POTUS will.
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- londons_explore 8y agoI think it does happen all the time. I'd guess weekly at least. My guess is this case was specifically targeted by media influencing government agencies to exert pressure on SA. The case itself is also almost a perfect fit - a good link to the USA and English speaking world, very solid evidence collected by Turkey, etc.
- Touche 8y agoI don't see how it could happen that often and go unreported. The only way would be if the killings happened with the country finding out about it.
- londons_explore 8y agoA good proportion I suspect never get fully investigated. People 'going missing', dying of 'suicide', 'car crash', 'heart attack', etc. All of those are pretty trivial for a state to make happen anywhere else in the world with a low chance of being caught. I suspect there are also some where there is reasonable evidence a foreign state was involved, but the victim simply wasn't sufficiently noteworthy for the media to care, and the case not being worthy of getting high level politicians involved in. For a state, using the brief time the president has talking to another state president to discuss a missing person rather than finalizing a new trade deal is a bad move.
- fit2rule 8y agoSome intelligence agencies are more effective at controlling the narrative around their assassinations, e.g. the US' intelligence agencies media control.
- dragonwriter 8y agoWell, I mean, Russia’s done quite a bit of it, but we hear as much or more about many of those as about Kashoggi.