4 ms·

Why are cars allowed to litter the public roads and park all over the place, taking up a massive amount of space with mostly empty seats and driven around less

Why are cars allowed to litter the public roads and park all over the place, taking up a massive amount of space with mostly empty seats and driven around less than 10% of the time?

sdinsn 8y ago
It's not littering since local statues have rules about parking. FYI, in some areas, parking is illegal, and in most areas leaving your car in a spot for too long will allow the city to tow it. Since the majority of places don't have statues for scooters, the default actually is littering, it's no different than dumping anything else on the sidewalk.
- gibolt 8y ago
  Scooters are definitively vehicles. What would governments do if people just started parking bikes and scooters in free full-size car parking spaces :)
  - trhway 8y ago
    Scooters aren't vehicles licensed for public roads. So it will probably still be littering, of public roads and parking spaces this time.
    - xur17 8y ago
      But you're supposed to ride them in the roads in most cities.
- cortesoft 8y ago
  Yeah, but those statutes came after cars were popular. Early on, I bet people were parking all over the place and it was people complaining about it that lead to those rules being put in place.
alasdair_ 8y ago
>Why are cars allowed to litter the public roads and park all over the place, taking up a massive amount of space with mostly empty seats and driven around less than 10% of the time? Because car owners pay extra in taxes, specifically to cover the additional costs to society.
- matchbok 8y ago
  The taxes are a drop in the bucket compared to the wasted space, pollution, and clutter.
  - iso1337 8y ago
    Yup, especially when any attempt to raise gas taxes is met with hostility by the voters. We massively subsidize drivers in this country. It's a natural consequence of people voting for their own short-term self-interests. https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2015/05/debunking-the-myth-that-only-drivers-pay-for-roads/393134/ https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2015/05/debunking-the...
  - xur17 8y ago
    The taxes are a drop in the bucket compared to just the road costs alone (ignoring the other societal downsides).
fenwick67 8y ago
This but unironically
nullorundefined 8y ago
Cars are parked in designated areas in an organized matter and get ticketed when they obstruct pedestrian traffic. Also, your comment is a logical fallacy.
- beambot 8y ago
  As cars gained mainstream adoption, governments passed legislation regulating their use in the way you described. I'm sure scooters will follow a similar trajectory; we're just waiting for legislation to catch up.
hyperbovine 8y ago
Because the law says they are. You don't like it, vote.
fake-name 8y ago
Because I pay taxes + reg and crap to the DMV yearly to allow it to be on public roads?

Why are cars allowed to litter the public roads and park all over the place, taking up a massive amount of space with mostly empty seats and driven around less than 10% of the time?

sdinsn 8y ago

It's not littering since local statues have rules about parking. FYI, in some areas, parking is illegal, and in most areas leaving your car in a spot for too long will allow the city to tow it. Since the majority of places don't have statues for scooters, the default actually is littering, it's no different than dumping anything else on the sidewalk.

gibolt 8y ago
Scooters are definitively vehicles. What would governments do if people just started parking bikes and scooters in free full-size car parking spaces :)
- trhway 8y ago
  Scooters aren't vehicles licensed for public roads. So it will probably still be littering, of public roads and parking spaces this time.
  - xur17 8y ago
    But you're supposed to ride them in the roads in most cities.
cortesoft 8y ago
Yeah, but those statutes came after cars were popular. Early on, I bet people were parking all over the place and it was people complaining about it that lead to those rules being put in place.

alasdair_ 8y ago

>Why are cars allowed to litter the public roads and park all over the place, taking up a massive amount of space with mostly empty seats and driven around less than 10% of the time? Because car owners pay extra in taxes, specifically to cover the additional costs to society.

matchbok 8y ago
The taxes are a drop in the bucket compared to the wasted space, pollution, and clutter.
- iso1337 8y ago
  Yup, especially when any attempt to raise gas taxes is met with hostility by the voters. We massively subsidize drivers in this country. It's a natural consequence of people voting for their own short-term self-interests. https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2015/05/debunking-the-myth-that-only-drivers-pay-for-roads/393134/ https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2015/05/debunking-the...
- xur17 8y ago
  The taxes are a drop in the bucket compared to just the road costs alone (ignoring the other societal downsides).

fenwick67 8y ago

This but unironically

nullorundefined 8y ago

Cars are parked in designated areas in an organized matter and get ticketed when they obstruct pedestrian traffic. Also, your comment is a logical fallacy.

beambot 8y ago
As cars gained mainstream adoption, governments passed legislation regulating their use in the way you described. I'm sure scooters will follow a similar trajectory; we're just waiting for legislation to catch up.

hyperbovine 8y ago

Because the law says they are. You don't like it, vote.

fake-name 8y ago

Because I pay taxes + reg and crap to the DMV yearly to allow it to be on public roads?