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there are a lot of jokes being made along the lines of "there goes their userbase" but for me personally this is a huge loss. especially for those of us who ha

there are a lot of jokes being made along the lines of "there goes their userbase" but for me personally this is a huge loss. especially for those of us who have certain kinks, Tumblr to this day has been the only place to ever exist where women could safely express their sexuality. it allowed us to meet like-minded people, it allowed us to break the taboo and it ended the isolation that many of us felt. Tumblrs main asset has always been it's community,and I'm deathly afraid this new policy will take all of this away

rajacombinator 8y ago
This is the new reality of the internet, best get used to it. Free speech is dead.
- ajkjk 8y ago
  This seems like the opposite of free speech being dead. A website shut down and you can just... go... make or use another one, anytime you like, without having to worry about it even being illegal.
  - bredren 8y ago
    I also see this as a market opportunity for a startup to adapt / improve on tumblr and fill the void. An unexpected, and permanent content restriction on a major platform is a disruptive event.
    - Apocryphon 8y ago
      Yesterday's BitChute discussion [0] brought up the unfortunate fact that many ostensibly free-speech zone sites such as Voat and Gab just end up being havens for far right bigots and conspiracy theorists. Made me wonder if that toxic stew could be balanced if far left activists brigaded those platforms. With this story, it'd be even more amusing if amateur erotica creators and kink community people migrated from Tumblr to those places as well. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18583211 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18583211
      - bredren 8y ago
        Interesting thought experiment but based on my understanding of online community behavior I highly doubt erotica creators would go to a place already entrenched with Qanon believers. I do think they would jump to “the new tumblr” not owned by Verizon that has its own cool culture. Both consumers and creators like building stuff up.
      - JBReefer 8y ago
        Far Right + Far Left !== somewhere good, you just get Reddit (or WW2). You need sane people to have sane conversations.
        Apocryphon 8y ago
        Oh, I hardly think it'd be much more than a toxic cesspool. But at least it'd be a multipolar, interesting cesspool.
- wmeredith 8y ago
  What an ignorant comment. This isn't a free speech issue. The government isn't censoring down Tumblr. Its owners are.
jammygit 8y ago
"(...) the only place to ever exist where women could safely express their sexuality." Some female friends of mine used to like fetlife.com. They say its like facebook, but with... fewer family members and coworkers I guess you could say.
- iamdave 8y ago
  They say its like facebook, but with... fewer family members and coworkers I guess you could say I'm being mildly sarcastic in tone when I say this: they're probably there, you just haven't found their profiles yet ;) Which is kind of the interesting thing about Fetlife, one can't approach someone about being on "that" site without outing themselves for being on "that" site as well-since you're not able to see any profiles without logging in (assuming a friend doesn't login and show them around and they spot your face in a profile pic commenting in a group thread or on someone's photos) where others you can't see at all unless that person has added you to their friends list-you're directed to a generic 404 page.
totfz 8y ago
Tumblr is the only place of the internet where showing your kinks is allowed? And this only affects females? Allow me to call bs.
bilbo0s 8y ago
Not to put too fine a point on it, but if it was that valuable to you, all of you guys should have gotten together and offered to start paying. The next website you guys find yourselves on, you should really consider paying.
- FooHentai 8y ago
  But we were paying. Advertising and data mining are valid payments from a user base.
  - likeclockwork 8y ago
    Those aren't users, those are used. You were the product.
    - vernie 8y ago
      Wow. Damn. Got 'em.
- Wowfunhappy 8y ago
  I'm inclined to agree with the general sentiment here—the fact that no one is willing to pay for software is harmful in the long run, because companies find other ways of extracting money, that either harm the product itself or the user. But, asking users to "get together and offer to start paying money" in exchange that's free is completely unreasonable. Tumblr didn't offer any kind of payment avenue.
  - somebodythere 8y ago
    You can purchase premium themes.
flukus 8y ago
> especially for those of us who have certain kinks, Tumblr to this day has been the only place to ever exist where women could safely express their sexuality. Long before tumblr there were the alt.sex (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt.sex https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt.sex) newsgroups. There have always been dedicated sites for just about any kink since the web existed plus meta ones like fetlife.
shahar2k 8y ago
not just for women, a lot of the kink side of tumblr expressed a much healthier attitude and freer mindset towards these topics, and it's a rough thing to see it go away. I run 3 obscure tumblrs myself (only one of which is sfw) and it's a damn shame to see it go. especially before there is any real viable replacement.

rajacombinator 8y ago

This is the new reality of the internet, best get used to it. Free speech is dead.

ajkjk 8y ago
This seems like the opposite of free speech being dead. A website shut down and you can just... go... make or use another one, anytime you like, without having to worry about it even being illegal.
- bredren 8y ago
  I also see this as a market opportunity for a startup to adapt / improve on tumblr and fill the void. An unexpected, and permanent content restriction on a major platform is a disruptive event.
  - Apocryphon 8y ago
    Yesterday's BitChute discussion [0] brought up the unfortunate fact that many ostensibly free-speech zone sites such as Voat and Gab just end up being havens for far right bigots and conspiracy theorists. Made me wonder if that toxic stew could be balanced if far left activists brigaded those platforms. With this story, it'd be even more amusing if amateur erotica creators and kink community people migrated from Tumblr to those places as well. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18583211 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18583211
    - bredren 8y ago
      Interesting thought experiment but based on my understanding of online community behavior I highly doubt erotica creators would go to a place already entrenched with Qanon believers. I do think they would jump to “the new tumblr” not owned by Verizon that has its own cool culture. Both consumers and creators like building stuff up.
    - JBReefer 8y ago
      Far Right + Far Left !== somewhere good, you just get Reddit (or WW2). You need sane people to have sane conversations.
      - Apocryphon 8y ago
        Oh, I hardly think it'd be much more than a toxic cesspool. But at least it'd be a multipolar, interesting cesspool.
wmeredith 8y ago
What an ignorant comment. This isn't a free speech issue. The government isn't censoring down Tumblr. Its owners are.

jammygit 8y ago

"(...) the only place to ever exist where women could safely express their sexuality." Some female friends of mine used to like fetlife.com. They say its like facebook, but with... fewer family members and coworkers I guess you could say.

iamdave 8y ago
They say its like facebook, but with... fewer family members and coworkers I guess you could say I'm being mildly sarcastic in tone when I say this: they're probably there, you just haven't found their profiles yet ;) Which is kind of the interesting thing about Fetlife, one can't approach someone about being on "that" site without outing themselves for being on "that" site as well-since you're not able to see any profiles without logging in (assuming a friend doesn't login and show them around and they spot your face in a profile pic commenting in a group thread or on someone's photos) where others you can't see at all unless that person has added you to their friends list-you're directed to a generic 404 page.

totfz 8y ago

Tumblr is the only place of the internet where showing your kinks is allowed? And this only affects females? Allow me to call bs.

bilbo0s 8y ago

Not to put too fine a point on it, but if it was that valuable to you, all of you guys should have gotten together and offered to start paying. The next website you guys find yourselves on, you should really consider paying.

FooHentai 8y ago
But we were paying. Advertising and data mining are valid payments from a user base.
- likeclockwork 8y ago
  Those aren't users, those are used. You were the product.
  - vernie 8y ago
    Wow. Damn. Got 'em.
Wowfunhappy 8y ago
I'm inclined to agree with the general sentiment here—the fact that no one is willing to pay for software is harmful in the long run, because companies find other ways of extracting money, that either harm the product itself or the user. But, asking users to "get together and offer to start paying money" in exchange that's free is completely unreasonable. Tumblr didn't offer any kind of payment avenue.
- somebodythere 8y ago
  You can purchase premium themes.

flukus 8y ago

> especially for those of us who have certain kinks, Tumblr to this day has been the only place to ever exist where women could safely express their sexuality. Long before tumblr there were the alt.sex (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt.sex https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt.sex) newsgroups. There have always been dedicated sites for just about any kink since the web existed plus meta ones like fetlife.

shahar2k 8y ago

not just for women, a lot of the kink side of tumblr expressed a much healthier attitude and freer mindset towards these topics, and it's a rough thing to see it go away. I run 3 obscure tumblrs myself (only one of which is sfw) and it's a damn shame to see it go. especially before there is any real viable replacement.