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> The result is that women live in a state of _perpetual fear of men_. And that's current state. Hyperbole does not help at all, and this statement is several

> The result is that women live in a state of _perpetual fear of men_. And that's current state. Hyperbole does not help at all, and this statement is several levels beyond hyperbole. A bit of nuance, please.

temp-dude-87844 8y ago
Well, the hyperbole helps in the sense that it's an opinion shared by much more people, including some pundits, academics, and commentators with an audience, than ten or twenty years ago. This alone ought to explain, if not necessarily justify, why some men are starting to practice extreme avoidance of women.
kajecounterhack 8y ago
It's not hyperbole. Some easy ways to check IRL: Do the women in your life not check their routes when walking when it's dark out? Do the men? Do women try to bow out gracefully from relationships even if the onus shouldn't be on them, sometimes from fear of men potentially harming them? Do men do this at all? Do you tell your daughter to watch out for predators before college? Do you tell your son the same thing, or different? Which one are you more worried for? Do you tell your daughter to stop being vigilant in <any scenario> because creeps aren't a threat?
- repolfx 8y ago
  Men do fear dark alleys yes, where did you get the idea that they don't? Stranger rape is exceptionally rare. Rapes are usually by people who the victim already knows. Being mugged by some drug abuser on the other hand is a genderless crime and a fair bit more common. Do women try to bow out gracefully from relationships even if the onus shouldn't be on them, sometimes from fear of men potentially harming them? Do men do this at all? That's what the entire Bloomberg article is about! Yes, men apparently now routinely bow out gracefully from relationships with women, because they fear the woman will harm them.
  - berbec 8y ago
    "That's what the entire Bloomberg article is about! Yes, men apparently now routinely bow out gracefully from relationships with women, because they fear the woman will harm them." And the article is showing this because it is a massive, unheard of change.
- tomp 8y ago
  > Do the women in your life not check their routes when walking when it's dark out? Do the men? Of course we do. Btw statistically men are assaulted more often than women.

temp-dude-87844 8y ago

Well, the hyperbole helps in the sense that it's an opinion shared by much more people, including some pundits, academics, and commentators with an audience, than ten or twenty years ago. This alone ought to explain, if not necessarily justify, why some men are starting to practice extreme avoidance of women.

kajecounterhack 8y ago

It's not hyperbole. Some easy ways to check IRL: Do the women in your life not check their routes when walking when it's dark out? Do the men? Do women try to bow out gracefully from relationships even if the onus shouldn't be on them, sometimes from fear of men potentially harming them? Do men do this at all? Do you tell your daughter to watch out for predators before college? Do you tell your son the same thing, or different? Which one are you more worried for? Do you tell your daughter to stop being vigilant in <any scenario> because creeps aren't a threat?

repolfx 8y ago
Men do fear dark alleys yes, where did you get the idea that they don't? Stranger rape is exceptionally rare. Rapes are usually by people who the victim already knows. Being mugged by some drug abuser on the other hand is a genderless crime and a fair bit more common. Do women try to bow out gracefully from relationships even if the onus shouldn't be on them, sometimes from fear of men potentially harming them? Do men do this at all? That's what the entire Bloomberg article is about! Yes, men apparently now routinely bow out gracefully from relationships with women, because they fear the woman will harm them.
- berbec 8y ago
  "That's what the entire Bloomberg article is about! Yes, men apparently now routinely bow out gracefully from relationships with women, because they fear the woman will harm them." And the article is showing this because it is a massive, unheard of change.
tomp 8y ago
> Do the women in your life not check their routes when walking when it's dark out? Do the men? Of course we do. Btw statistically men are assaulted more often than women.