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Agreed. Own your mistakes. And don't judge others by thwir mistakes. Mistakes are a part of life and nothing to be ashamed of. A good idea may be to not show n
by maxxxxx 8y ago
Agreed. Own your mistakes. And don't judge others by thwir mistakes. Mistakes are a part of life and nothing to be ashamed of.
A good idea may be to not show negative points to others but only to the author. That way you know what got downvoted but it's not public.
- ikeboy 8y agoNegative comments != Mistakes. I've been downvoted plenty of times because people disagreed, and I'm sure I was right at least some of those times
- bunderbunder 8y agoThe downvote button can be many things. One of them is an outlet for people who disagree with a comment but can't (or don't want to) articulate why.
- choko 8y agoThe upvote/downvote system should be to promote interesting (and factually accurate) discussion and to demote factually incorrect or low effort comments. Downvoting well articulated opinions with which you disagree contributes to the echo chamber and groupthink effects and makes HN boring. There are many other popular websites you can visit if you want validation on your opinions.
- dingaling 8y agoAnd your down-voted comment is a perfect example. The down-arrow is de facto used to express disagreement, you stated this and someone disagreed and down-voted you. QED.
- bunderbunder 8y agoI wouldn't be at all surprised if people were just downvoting the comment as a joke.
- resters 8y agoA comment being down voted doesn’t constitute a mistake, usually it’s a case where someone disagrees but lacks the verbal fluency to express why.
- rusk 8y agoWho said it's mistakes? Sometimes you can just be making a wholly correct remark that goes against the grain. If you should be forced to "own" your downvotes, then downvoters should be forced to "own" them too by accompanying their downvote with an explanation.
- maxxxxx 8y ago"If you should be forced to "own" your downvotes, then downvoters should be forced to "own" them too by accompanying their downvote with an explanation. " Maybe the whole voting thing should be abandoned and comments should stand on their own. What's the benefit of karma?
- rusk 8y agoDon't get me wrong. Voting and Karma do have value. It's not a perfect system though.
- crankylinuxuser 8y ago> What's the benefit of karma? Probable answer: so a venture capitalist firm that runs this place can: 1. Get a feel of what's coming 'in' and climbing in popularity. 2. To control the narrative by upvoting and/or downvoting submitters to control where the news goes. Transparency would indeed solve this. But it would also end those asymmetric benefits of controlling your own news agency/site.
- reitanqild 8y agoOn lobsters comment scores are public, downvotes has to specify a reason and moderation is public. Programming topics are probably better at lobsters. (And almost all other topics are off topic.)
- krapp 8y agoI don't know about the benefit of karma, but the purpose of karma is to enforce and reward conformity to guidelines and culture through operant conditioning, with the intended net effect being only high-quality comments (and commenters) wind up on top, and are engaged with, while low quality comments (and commenters) are left alone at the bottom, unreadable, to discourage both commenters and posters. This is in line with HN's culture of aggressive curation and "quality over quantity," though, so I don't see it changing or going away.
- bdz 8y agoDisagree. Negative comments are not mistakes. Maybe you are just going against the hivemind. HN is an echochamber like every other social media platform. It does a good job to negate the side effects but you can still be downvoted to hell just because you are an outsider.
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- gdy 8y agoNowadays the cost of a mistake can be disproportionally big.