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Selling twice as many piles of low quality, poorly designed phones as premium ones is still selling twice as much garbage. At the end of the day, just because y

Selling twice as many piles of low quality, poorly designed phones as premium ones is still selling twice as much garbage. At the end of the day, just because you sell more doesn't mean your product is better. This is proof of that. From a business perspective, Android manufacturers need to sell many, many more devices in order to even come close to Apple's profitability. Look at how well Apple is able to not just manufacture their devices, but also design chips, main boards, visual and function design, create excellent software with profoundly amazing developer frameworks, and run meaningful marketing campaigns... all while turning an incredible profit margin. Google and its manufacturing partners are simply not producing high grade and thoughtful products. So until they do, who really cares about it "outselling iOS 2:1".

mahmud 16y ago
You are sorely mistaken, my friend. You and I will never be in a position to sell a successful mobile handset[1], so let's just focus on the app development and sales. In terms of ease of use, we can use whatever tool we're most comfortable with to develop for Android: C, C++, Java, Flash, C#, Python, Scheme, Ruby, etc. and we have guaranteed approval. Neither Google nor other alleged gatekeepers can dick with our right to publish software. Even if we choose to give it away for free, users can download our apps and install on their Android phones without anybody knowing about it, getting a cut or messing with them. "adb install MyApp.apk" is a birth right on Android, bless the beautiful platform! For a developer, Android is multitasking, garbage collected, and modern, almost to a fault. You can tweak it to your liking, as much as you want. And should you choose to, you can build it from sources and deploy it on your new exotic board that nobody has ever heard of. At this point, Android is bigger than the efforts of all the carriers and handset creators, combined. What Android can do is only limited by your imagination, skill, and budget. Nothing is stopping you from developing a new mobile handset that puts the iPhone to shame (and many have done this) and loading Android with it. Instead of finding fault in specific Android deployments or handsets, ask yourself: what do I want to do with Android? This thing is bigger than a movement, it's a tsunami wave standing a mile tall: I want to ride it, I want you to ride it. Let's put our creativity together and make use of this thundering power. Or stand in its way to be crushed. -- [1] Unless we use Android or Maemo, which are Free Software :-)
- kevinelliott 16y ago
  I never said I wanted to be in the handset business. And frankly, there's not much money to be made in making Android apps. Android's "openness" lends to users thinking apps are not worthy of purchasing, so few paid apps are actually doing well on the Android Market. In most cases, it costs more to build an Android app than it's worth. I get that Android is huge. It's a nice second rung. But it suffers from countless flaws (UX and UI, market profitability for devs, device fragmentation, etc).
- kevinelliott 16y ago
  If Android is so great, why has every single handset that I've used, including the one I own, drag and stutter when I slide my finger on various screens? iOS is flawless in this way. There are apps that don't tune their views on both platforms, but only on Android do I consistently see this drag in the OS itself.
kevinelliott 16y ago
Nice. Down modded for pointing out the truth. Seems there are some folks here in denial about Apple's ability to handle the entire workflow and design/manufacturing process. You don't need to be an Apple fanboy to see that Apple has got a better thing going, even if they do lose market share.

mahmud 16y ago

You are sorely mistaken, my friend. You and I will never be in a position to sell a successful mobile handset[1], so let's just focus on the app development and sales. In terms of ease of use, we can use whatever tool we're most comfortable with to develop for Android: C, C++, Java, Flash, C#, Python, Scheme, Ruby, etc. and we have guaranteed approval. Neither Google nor other alleged gatekeepers can dick with our right to publish software. Even if we choose to give it away for free, users can download our apps and install on their Android phones without anybody knowing about it, getting a cut or messing with them. "adb install MyApp.apk" is a birth right on Android, bless the beautiful platform! For a developer, Android is multitasking, garbage collected, and modern, almost to a fault. You can tweak it to your liking, as much as you want. And should you choose to, you can build it from sources and deploy it on your new exotic board that nobody has ever heard of. At this point, Android is bigger than the efforts of all the carriers and handset creators, combined. What Android can do is only limited by your imagination, skill, and budget. Nothing is stopping you from developing a new mobile handset that puts the iPhone to shame (and many have done this) and loading Android with it. Instead of finding fault in specific Android deployments or handsets, ask yourself: what do I want to do with Android? This thing is bigger than a movement, it's a tsunami wave standing a mile tall: I want to ride it, I want you to ride it. Let's put our creativity together and make use of this thundering power. Or stand in its way to be crushed. -- [1] Unless we use Android or Maemo, which are Free Software :-)

kevinelliott 16y ago
I never said I wanted to be in the handset business. And frankly, there's not much money to be made in making Android apps. Android's "openness" lends to users thinking apps are not worthy of purchasing, so few paid apps are actually doing well on the Android Market. In most cases, it costs more to build an Android app than it's worth. I get that Android is huge. It's a nice second rung. But it suffers from countless flaws (UX and UI, market profitability for devs, device fragmentation, etc).
kevinelliott 16y ago
If Android is so great, why has every single handset that I've used, including the one I own, drag and stutter when I slide my finger on various screens? iOS is flawless in this way. There are apps that don't tune their views on both platforms, but only on Android do I consistently see this drag in the OS itself.

kevinelliott 16y ago

Nice. Down modded for pointing out the truth. Seems there are some folks here in denial about Apple's ability to handle the entire workflow and design/manufacturing process. You don't need to be an Apple fanboy to see that Apple has got a better thing going, even if they do lose market share.