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> Standard interaction widgets. There was no breaking the scroll, there was no button that you can't discover how to press... There was no action without a shor

> Standard interaction widgets. There was no breaking the scroll, there was no button that you can't discover how to press... There was no action without a shortcut... The sortcut descriptions were embedded on the same places you had to click to get the functionality. Buttons were clearly marked. There was almost always some text area telling you what was happening. This still is the right way to design GUIs for applications to which it is applicable, many people (me included) still follow it and I would warn against thinking of it as of obsolete.

TeMPOraL 8y ago
> This still is the right way to design GUIs for applications to which it is applicable, many people (me included) still follow it and I would warn against thinking of it as of obsolete. I'm grateful for all those people, yourself included. But the problem is that most software is moving to the Web, and the browser is treated as blank canvas. Everyone reimplements their own UI to their aesthetic taste, with no regard for accessibility and interoperability. It's the other reason (besides security) that Flash was bad; just calling it "DOM" doesn't make it suck any less.
AnIdiotOnTheNet 8y ago
Sadly, you are in the minority. Look at this [0]. This is why no one needed a baked in "dark mode" for Windows 98. There is no equivalent dialog in modern Windows. It's ridiculous how much computer interfaces have regressed in recent decades. [0] https://tinyurl.com/yco7jz92 https://tinyurl.com/yco7jz92
- qwerty456127 8y ago
  > This is why no one needed a baked in "dark mode" for Windows 98. Nevertheless there was and it looked really crazy. > There is no equivalent dialog in modern Windows The last version of Windows I used was Windows 7 and I'm pretty sure it was there. I was coding WinForms apps and it uses native system widgets stylable via these settings. Now I use Qt to develop cross-platform apps (on KDE5 as the primary environment), it follows the principle in almost every aspect (it doesn't let you change the colors easily however, you need to design a custom theme for this), it also suggest attaching a keyboard shortcut to every action and displays these right to the menu items.
  - AnIdiotOnTheNet 8y ago
    > Nevertheless there was and it looked really crazy. You're talking about the high-contrast theme. It wasn't anything special, it was just a specific set of settings from this dialog. Compare that to now, when having a dark mode took so much work Microsoft made a special announcement and everything. Ridiculous. > The last version of Windows I used was Windows 7 and I'm pretty sure it was there. It's been a while since 7, but if this dialog was there it was because you could still disable compositing and use the old fashioned Win32. The closest thing in 10 lets you change your titlebar color and background.

TeMPOraL 8y ago

> This still is the right way to design GUIs for applications to which it is applicable, many people (me included) still follow it and I would warn against thinking of it as of obsolete. I'm grateful for all those people, yourself included. But the problem is that most software is moving to the Web, and the browser is treated as blank canvas. Everyone reimplements their own UI to their aesthetic taste, with no regard for accessibility and interoperability. It's the other reason (besides security) that Flash was bad; just calling it "DOM" doesn't make it suck any less.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 8y ago

Sadly, you are in the minority. Look at this [0]. This is why no one needed a baked in "dark mode" for Windows 98. There is no equivalent dialog in modern Windows. It's ridiculous how much computer interfaces have regressed in recent decades. [0] https://tinyurl.com/yco7jz92 https://tinyurl.com/yco7jz92

qwerty456127 8y ago
> This is why no one needed a baked in "dark mode" for Windows 98. Nevertheless there was and it looked really crazy. > There is no equivalent dialog in modern Windows The last version of Windows I used was Windows 7 and I'm pretty sure it was there. I was coding WinForms apps and it uses native system widgets stylable via these settings. Now I use Qt to develop cross-platform apps (on KDE5 as the primary environment), it follows the principle in almost every aspect (it doesn't let you change the colors easily however, you need to design a custom theme for this), it also suggest attaching a keyboard shortcut to every action and displays these right to the menu items.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 8y ago
  > Nevertheless there was and it looked really crazy. You're talking about the high-contrast theme. It wasn't anything special, it was just a specific set of settings from this dialog. Compare that to now, when having a dark mode took so much work Microsoft made a special announcement and everything. Ridiculous. > The last version of Windows I used was Windows 7 and I'm pretty sure it was there. It's been a while since 7, but if this dialog was there it was because you could still disable compositing and use the old fashioned Win32. The closest thing in 10 lets you change your titlebar color and background.