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All the android phones on all the carriers outsell 1 phone on 1 carrier....what a surprise. I want to see the updated data on what % of app dollars are spent o

by gte910h 16y ago

All the android phones on all the carriers outsell 1 phone on 1 carrier....what a surprise. I want to see the updated data on what % of app dollars are spent on what OS today.

rlmw 16y ago
I don't disagree with your central point, but it's worth noting that in the UK the iphone is on many carriers and is being heavily outsold by Android phones.
- moultano 16y ago
  For completeness, do you have a source? I'd heard the opposite, and would like to avoid misrepeating this in the future.
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  - shrikant 16y ago
    I honestly would like see a citation/source too. [Warning: anecdote masquerading as data ahead] I've been in London for a couple of months now, and travel by the Tube daily (primarily the Piccadilly and District lines, fwiw). In the commute, at the workplace, or simply just walking around, I see more iPhones than Androids. Way, WAY more, about an order of magnitude more! I often joke to my friends back in India that if H2G2 was set in modern day London, then Ford Prefect would've been named Apple iPhone instead.
    - NickPollard 16y ago
      My experiences agree, BUT, London is not representative of the UK as a whole. Also, people on commuter tubes into central London are not even representative of all the people in London. Also, if anything, I think I still see more Blackberries than iPhones or Androids.
      - shrikant 16y ago
        Also, people on commuter tubes into central London are not even representative of all the people in London. I find that interesting, care to elaborate? I was under the impression the LU is the lifeline of London (from my admittedly brief stay here). Maybe you could drop me an email, seeing as how OT this seems...
pyre 16y ago
I hate the 'dick waving' that goes on with this stuff from either side of the aisle: --- Apple fans (now): Quantity ensures quality. You can't have a decent AppStore without X million apps. Android fans (now): Quality over quantity! It's better to have an AppStore with quality apps than it is to have one with a large number of apps that aren't quality! --- Apple fans (when Android's AppStore has more apps than Apple's AppStore): Quality over quantity! It's not quantity that matters, it's the quality of the apps! Android fans (when Android's AppStore has more apps than Apple's AppStore): Quantity over quality! Because our App store has more apps than yours it ensures that there are more quality apps! --- Apple fans (when iPhones outsell Android phones): Android phones will never outsell iPhones. The iPhone is much more intuitive, and the 'mendicants' could never figure out an Android phone it's just too complex. Normal people will never go for a phone that has font kerning that is off by 2 pixels! Besides, just look at the iPhone sales numbers! Android fans (when iPhones outsell Android phones): But we're not offered on enough networks yet! And our phone is more quality! --- Apple fans (when Android phones outsell iPhones): But the iPhone is only sold from a single carrier! It's not fair to compare numbers! Besides, the iPhone is a better quality product! Android fans (when Android phones outsell iPhones): Look at the numbers! We beat you! Nah-nah! Android phones outsell iPhones!
- gte910h 16y ago
  I was dick waving? I was underwhelmed with the title of the post, acting like it was surprising that 1 phone was being outsold by 24.
  - pyre 16y ago
    Sorry, that wasn't directed at you, but your post spawn my thought, so I made it a reply.
enjo 16y ago
How is not relevant? Your arguing that "Big surprise Windows (from many different OEM's) outsells OS X (on one)". Yet that obviously has ridiculously huge consequences to the overall markets. As a developer you can (more or less) release one product that runs on these phones. So those aggregate sales numbers certainly matter a lot. I've long thought that this feels like Mac vs PC part II, and it's certainly looking that way.
- gte910h 16y ago
  If there was only 1 mac sold, the argument would be analogous. There are several different macs sold however, to fit many different types of of applications, from the mini to the 17 inch powerbook. My argument is that it's strange to see the headline "Android phones outsell Apple phones 2:1 in the US" when there is 1 phone (on a single carrier, the more important point in my opinion) for sale vs a couple dozen. The headline "Android phones combined only sell 2x as many as iPhones being sold", or "Vendors sell 100% more android phones per month than Apple does". I mean, a HUGE percentage of apple phones are sold right after macworld. Q3 numbers are especially deceptive because all the people who bought their post-macworld iPhones in Q2 of course don't need to buy another. Additionally, you have to look at: > "Much of Android's quarterly share growth came at the expense of RIM, rather than Apple," said Ross Rubin, executive director at NPD The article title is misleading: iOS as a smartphone platform is still growing, just slower than android is. iOS as a platform (including iPodTouch and iPad), is growing faster than android is on all devices, however android is gaining parity in the number of smartphones are. I want this to end up more like 30/30/30/various%. It makes for more apps and more consumer choice. I just think the article portrays this like android is eating apple, when actually, apple and android are eating blackberry and winmo 6.5, and android merely eating more of it in the quarter least likely to see strong growth from Apple. I mean, http://www.canalys.com/pr/2010/r2010111.html http://www.canalys.com/pr/2010/r2010111.html doesn't really fit that well with the idea Android is now beating Apple. It's not, it is however catching up to apple this particular quarter.

by gte910h 16y ago

All the android phones on all the carriers outsell 1 phone on 1 carrier....what a surprise. I want to see the updated data on what % of app dollars are spent on what OS today.

rlmw 16y ago

I don't disagree with your central point, but it's worth noting that in the UK the iphone is on many carriers and is being heavily outsold by Android phones.

moultano 16y ago
For completeness, do you have a source? I'd heard the opposite, and would like to avoid misrepeating this in the future.
- deleted 16y ago
  [deleted]
- shrikant 16y ago
  I honestly would like see a citation/source too. [Warning: anecdote masquerading as data ahead] I've been in London for a couple of months now, and travel by the Tube daily (primarily the Piccadilly and District lines, fwiw). In the commute, at the workplace, or simply just walking around, I see more iPhones than Androids. Way, WAY more, about an order of magnitude more! I often joke to my friends back in India that if H2G2 was set in modern day London, then Ford Prefect would've been named Apple iPhone instead.
  - NickPollard 16y ago
    My experiences agree, BUT, London is not representative of the UK as a whole. Also, people on commuter tubes into central London are not even representative of all the people in London. Also, if anything, I think I still see more Blackberries than iPhones or Androids.
    - shrikant 16y ago
      Also, people on commuter tubes into central London are not even representative of all the people in London. I find that interesting, care to elaborate? I was under the impression the LU is the lifeline of London (from my admittedly brief stay here). Maybe you could drop me an email, seeing as how OT this seems...

pyre 16y ago

I hate the 'dick waving' that goes on with this stuff from either side of the aisle: --- Apple fans (now): Quantity ensures quality. You can't have a decent AppStore without X million apps. Android fans (now): Quality over quantity! It's better to have an AppStore with quality apps than it is to have one with a large number of apps that aren't quality! --- Apple fans (when Android's AppStore has more apps than Apple's AppStore): Quality over quantity! It's not quantity that matters, it's the quality of the apps! Android fans (when Android's AppStore has more apps than Apple's AppStore): Quantity over quality! Because our App store has more apps than yours it ensures that there are more quality apps! --- Apple fans (when iPhones outsell Android phones): Android phones will never outsell iPhones. The iPhone is much more intuitive, and the 'mendicants' could never figure out an Android phone it's just too complex. Normal people will never go for a phone that has font kerning that is off by 2 pixels! Besides, just look at the iPhone sales numbers! Android fans (when iPhones outsell Android phones): But we're not offered on enough networks yet! And our phone is more quality! --- Apple fans (when Android phones outsell iPhones): But the iPhone is only sold from a single carrier! It's not fair to compare numbers! Besides, the iPhone is a better quality product! Android fans (when Android phones outsell iPhones): Look at the numbers! We beat you! Nah-nah! Android phones outsell iPhones!

gte910h 16y ago
I was dick waving? I was underwhelmed with the title of the post, acting like it was surprising that 1 phone was being outsold by 24.
- pyre 16y ago
  Sorry, that wasn't directed at you, but your post spawn my thought, so I made it a reply.

enjo 16y ago

How is not relevant? Your arguing that "Big surprise Windows (from many different OEM's) outsells OS X (on one)". Yet that obviously has ridiculously huge consequences to the overall markets. As a developer you can (more or less) release one product that runs on these phones. So those aggregate sales numbers certainly matter a lot. I've long thought that this feels like Mac vs PC part II, and it's certainly looking that way.

gte910h 16y ago
If there was only 1 mac sold, the argument would be analogous. There are several different macs sold however, to fit many different types of of applications, from the mini to the 17 inch powerbook. My argument is that it's strange to see the headline "Android phones outsell Apple phones 2:1 in the US" when there is 1 phone (on a single carrier, the more important point in my opinion) for sale vs a couple dozen. The headline "Android phones combined only sell 2x as many as iPhones being sold", or "Vendors sell 100% more android phones per month than Apple does". I mean, a HUGE percentage of apple phones are sold right after macworld. Q3 numbers are especially deceptive because all the people who bought their post-macworld iPhones in Q2 of course don't need to buy another. Additionally, you have to look at: > "Much of Android's quarterly share growth came at the expense of RIM, rather than Apple," said Ross Rubin, executive director at NPD The article title is misleading: iOS as a smartphone platform is still growing, just slower than android is. iOS as a platform (including iPodTouch and iPad), is growing faster than android is on all devices, however android is gaining parity in the number of smartphones are. I want this to end up more like 30/30/30/various%. It makes for more apps and more consumer choice. I just think the article portrays this like android is eating apple, when actually, apple and android are eating blackberry and winmo 6.5, and android merely eating more of it in the quarter least likely to see strong growth from Apple. I mean, http://www.canalys.com/pr/2010/r2010111.html http://www.canalys.com/pr/2010/r2010111.html doesn't really fit that well with the idea Android is now beating Apple. It's not, it is however catching up to apple this particular quarter.