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A big part of that was because until recently Frontend Engineers were second class citizens at Amazon. It became easier and easier to work for a year here then
by jhall1468 8y ago
A big part of that was because until recently Frontend Engineers were second class citizens at Amazon. It became easier and easier to work for a year here then move to Facebook/Google and a variety of unicorns and get a huge pay raise.
Whether or not that's enough remains to be seen.
- bitrrrate 8y agoIt’s kinda crazy that the whole FEE thing was treated like a lightbulb moment for the company when everyone else in the industry had them.
- jhall1468 8y agoAmazon moves incredibly fast when it comes to products and incredibly slow when it comes to employee growth. They are treating it like a lightbulb moment, but several of the people involved in this have been working on it for a decade. Reality is, they didn't want to pay FEE's big money because they weren't worth it, and now the company is starving for good UX and they want to pretend they invented a solution to the problem by creating a role that's existed at Google for more than 10 years.
- talawahdotnet 8y agoI hope there is buy in from at least the Product Manager level as well. The issues are deeper than just a new coat of paint.
- oblio 8y agoWhat changed?
- jhall1468 8y agoPreviously Amazon separated frontend focused engineers (WDE's) and software engineers (SDE's) but the former had a lower payscale than the latter. The end result, every single time, is that great FEE's would simply work at Amazon for 1-2 years and move to Google or Facebook where they were paid considerably more. Amazon finally rectified it by introducing the FEE role, which has the same pay scale as SDE's. Perhaps more importantly, the WDE role terminated at WDE III and even that was incredibly difficult to achieve.