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What part of "anyone can force you to do business with them" sounds like freedom to you? Don't payment vendors and hosting platforms have freedom? Part of fre

What part of "anyone can force you to do business with them" sounds like freedom to you? Don't payment vendors and hosting platforms have freedom? Part of freedom is the responsibility to accept consequences of your actions. If you choose to say such vile things that people quit doing business with you, that's just people exercising their freedom. If you think it's unfair, you are valuing your freedom higher than everyone else's. When you complain about "deplatforming" you aren't asking for more freedom. You're asking for the freedom of others to be removed.

fvdessen 8y ago
Do you support the freedom to deplatform practicing Jews as well ?
blfr 8y ago
I'm not all that concerned with monopolists' and near monopolists' freedoms to be honest. VISA isn't some family-run corner store.
smsm42 8y ago
> What part of "anyone can force you to do business with them" sounds like freedom to you? The part where activist mobs can force you not to do business with people targeted by the mobs. > Part of freedom is the responsibility to accept consequences of your actions. That's a meaningless platitude - being personally destroyed or run out of business merely because somebody set a hate mob on you is not "consequences of your actions". This is creating climate of hate and intolerance, and that's in substantial the climate we're living in now. Some time ago, it was "if you don't like it - don't read it". Now it's "if you don't like it - destroy his life, his business, and anybody he is associated and does business with". Describing it as "accept consequences" is either extremely naive or disingenuous. I certainly do not want and will not accept such climate of permanent war as something proper. > You're asking for the freedom of others to be removed. No I did not. My comments are just above that, and anybody reading them can clearly see I have not asked for any freedoms to be removed. If you're going to distort my opinions, it's probably not smart to do it right next to it - too obvious.

fvdessen 8y ago

Do you support the freedom to deplatform practicing Jews as well ?

blfr 8y ago

I'm not all that concerned with monopolists' and near monopolists' freedoms to be honest. VISA isn't some family-run corner store.

smsm42 8y ago

> What part of "anyone can force you to do business with them" sounds like freedom to you? The part where activist mobs can force you not to do business with people targeted by the mobs. > Part of freedom is the responsibility to accept consequences of your actions. That's a meaningless platitude - being personally destroyed or run out of business merely because somebody set a hate mob on you is not "consequences of your actions". This is creating climate of hate and intolerance, and that's in substantial the climate we're living in now. Some time ago, it was "if you don't like it - don't read it". Now it's "if you don't like it - destroy his life, his business, and anybody he is associated and does business with". Describing it as "accept consequences" is either extremely naive or disingenuous. I certainly do not want and will not accept such climate of permanent war as something proper. > You're asking for the freedom of others to be removed. No I did not. My comments are just above that, and anybody reading them can clearly see I have not asked for any freedoms to be removed. If you're going to distort my opinions, it's probably not smart to do it right next to it - too obvious.