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Looking at the screenshots, I really still like the look of the windows and icons, but the system font is really holding it back. I didn't realize how bad it l

Looking at the screenshots, I really still like the look of the windows and icons, but the system font is really holding it back. I didn't realize how bad it looked compared to modern system fonts. I get the feeling a font switch would really improve the look.

waddlesplash 8y ago
Uh, the font is modern, it's "Noto Sans" from Google's new "Noto" family of fonts: https://www.google.com/get/noto/ https://www.google.com/get/noto/ Previously the default font was DejaVu Sans, which really looked a lot worse.
- protomyth 8y ago
  Well, it doesn't look very good in any of the screenshots.
  - waddlesplash 8y ago
    Perhaps because there's no subpixel hinting, I guess? Haiku does have it (it was hard-disabled for a long time due to patent concerns), but there's a bug relating to how the main text control draws strings that causes characters to overlap one another with it enabled, and so things generally look worse when it is. Someone should take the time to fix that...
Gracana 8y ago
The screenshots are scaled a bit. They look better full-size: https://osvoyager.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/dano-people-info.png https://osvoyager.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/dano-people-in...
- gmueckl 8y ago
  Hm, character spacing is pretty much broken in this screenshot. Not sure what is going on there, but it is certainly not completely correct.
  - waddlesplash 8y ago
    That's a screenshot of BeOS, so the font rendering engine behind that is from 1998. Not very surprising, then :)
    - protomyth 8y ago
      Well, it looks the same in https://www.haiku-os.org/slideshows/haiku-1/ https://www.haiku-os.org/slideshows/haiku-1/
      - waddlesplash 8y ago
        Those screenshots are DejaVu Sans, not Noto Sans, and with a different font rendering engine than the ones in this article. We should probably update those, though.
        protomyth 8y ago
        Ok, is there a screenshot from the current Haiku build?
        waddlesplash 8y ago
        Yes, the ones in this article, e.g. https://osvoyager.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/75-packages.png https://osvoyager.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/75-packages.pn...
    - Gracana 8y ago
      D'oh, I had a haiku screenshot selected at first, but then I picked that one because it had more stuff on it. Didn't notice it was a BeOS one.
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tqh 8y ago
Half of them are BeOS screenshots, which doesn't seem to have subpixel or anti-alias..

waddlesplash 8y ago

Uh, the font is modern, it's "Noto Sans" from Google's new "Noto" family of fonts: https://www.google.com/get/noto/ https://www.google.com/get/noto/ Previously the default font was DejaVu Sans, which really looked a lot worse.

protomyth 8y ago
Well, it doesn't look very good in any of the screenshots.
- waddlesplash 8y ago
  Perhaps because there's no subpixel hinting, I guess? Haiku does have it (it was hard-disabled for a long time due to patent concerns), but there's a bug relating to how the main text control draws strings that causes characters to overlap one another with it enabled, and so things generally look worse when it is. Someone should take the time to fix that...

Gracana 8y ago

The screenshots are scaled a bit. They look better full-size: https://osvoyager.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/dano-people-info.png https://osvoyager.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/dano-people-in...

gmueckl 8y ago
Hm, character spacing is pretty much broken in this screenshot. Not sure what is going on there, but it is certainly not completely correct.
- waddlesplash 8y ago
  That's a screenshot of BeOS, so the font rendering engine behind that is from 1998. Not very surprising, then :)
  - protomyth 8y ago
    Well, it looks the same in https://www.haiku-os.org/slideshows/haiku-1/ https://www.haiku-os.org/slideshows/haiku-1/
    - waddlesplash 8y ago
      Those screenshots are DejaVu Sans, not Noto Sans, and with a different font rendering engine than the ones in this article. We should probably update those, though.
      - protomyth 8y ago
        Ok, is there a screenshot from the current Haiku build?
        waddlesplash 8y ago
        Yes, the ones in this article, e.g. https://osvoyager.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/75-packages.png https://osvoyager.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/75-packages.pn...
  - Gracana 8y ago
    D'oh, I had a haiku screenshot selected at first, but then I picked that one because it had more stuff on it. Didn't notice it was a BeOS one.
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tqh 8y ago

Half of them are BeOS screenshots, which doesn't seem to have subpixel or anti-alias..