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The thing that always blew me away with BeOS was the time it took to cold boot. From powering on a machine to being ready to work. It was seconds. Still faster

The thing that always blew me away with BeOS was the time it took to cold boot. From powering on a machine to being ready to work. It was seconds. Still faster than a chromebook. That sure is something that most OS'es today can't do.

Annatar 8y ago
AmigaOS can, and yes it's still being developed.
swiftcoder 8y ago
You can configure most Debian variants to boot in seconds from a decent SSD. Ubuntu Server edition was really pushing this for a while, the desktop editions don't seem to prioritise boot times quite so highly. Hell, even Windows 10 boots from an SSD these days in less time than my BIOS takes to start the Windows boot process...
- reaperducer 8y ago
  By introducing SSD into the equation, you're creating a false equivalency.
  - swiftcoder 8y ago
    Sure, but it's a lot less disruptive solution to boot times than switching OS.
- chungy 8y ago
  Desktop boot time mostly doesn't matter, it is an infrequent event -- once a day at most, if the system is shut down at night. Server boot time, on the other hand, does matter. You really don't want a server to be down for longer than it has to. Being able to reboot in 10 seconds is huge compared to rebooting in a couple minutes. Now, given that servers are fundamentally running the same OS, improvements geared towards that market tend to bleed over to desktop as well. Desktop just has a bit more to bring up, with a graphical environment and everything.
  - stevekemp 8y ago
    If you've got "big" servers you can expect to spend minutes just checking RAM, and having the RAID controller identify disks & volumes.
    - mverwijs 8y ago
      Completely unrelated, but: thanks Steve, for debian-administration.org all those years ago!
      - stevekemp 8y ago
        Thank-you, reading that reply was a pleasant surprise!
- morganvachon 8y ago
  The thing is though, BeOS in 1999-2000 was booting in 5-10 seconds on (in my case) a 300MHz Pentium II with 64MB of RAM and a PATA/IDE spinning disk. Even a stripped down installation of Windows 98 took several times longer on the same machine. I lived in BeOS for over a year and a half on that machine, only booting Windows for a few games. It was pure heaven.

Annatar 8y ago

AmigaOS can, and yes it's still being developed.

swiftcoder 8y ago

You can configure most Debian variants to boot in seconds from a decent SSD. Ubuntu Server edition was really pushing this for a while, the desktop editions don't seem to prioritise boot times quite so highly. Hell, even Windows 10 boots from an SSD these days in less time than my BIOS takes to start the Windows boot process...

reaperducer 8y ago
By introducing SSD into the equation, you're creating a false equivalency.
- swiftcoder 8y ago
  Sure, but it's a lot less disruptive solution to boot times than switching OS.
chungy 8y ago
Desktop boot time mostly doesn't matter, it is an infrequent event -- once a day at most, if the system is shut down at night. Server boot time, on the other hand, does matter. You really don't want a server to be down for longer than it has to. Being able to reboot in 10 seconds is huge compared to rebooting in a couple minutes. Now, given that servers are fundamentally running the same OS, improvements geared towards that market tend to bleed over to desktop as well. Desktop just has a bit more to bring up, with a graphical environment and everything.
- stevekemp 8y ago
  If you've got "big" servers you can expect to spend minutes just checking RAM, and having the RAID controller identify disks & volumes.
  - mverwijs 8y ago
    Completely unrelated, but: thanks Steve, for debian-administration.org all those years ago!
    - stevekemp 8y ago
      Thank-you, reading that reply was a pleasant surprise!
morganvachon 8y ago
The thing is though, BeOS in 1999-2000 was booting in 5-10 seconds on (in my case) a 300MHz Pentium II with 64MB of RAM and a PATA/IDE spinning disk. Even a stripped down installation of Windows 98 took several times longer on the same machine. I lived in BeOS for over a year and a half on that machine, only booting Windows for a few games. It was pure heaven.