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Regardless of what it is now you should be happy it exists, look at present day Turkey and 1960s Iran to see how fast freedoms can be stripped by changes in gov

Regardless of what it is now you should be happy it exists, look at present day Turkey and 1960s Iran to see how fast freedoms can be stripped by changes in government. Tomorrow it could be leftists being censored. The Communist Control Act is still around in the US, just hasn't been enforced. There's effectively nothing to stop Trump from calling his enemies communists and throwing them in jail and with his stacked Supreme Court who knows if they would rule it unconstitutional? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Control_Act_of_1954 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Control_Act_of_1954

IAmEveryone 8y ago
How exactly are goat and whatever bitchute is saving us from Trump turning totalitarian? As opposed to, you know, the New York Times or even the Supreme Court.
notahacker 8y ago
First they came for the Gab, and... I was actually pretty pleased because I didn't think the sort of web host that would stand behind forums run by the sort of people that gloated about how many hits their association with a synagogue shooting brought them were actually potential allies in fighting fascism... Bitchute isn't the home of people posting Trump critiques. It's the home of people explaining why all criticisms of Trump must be dismissed as conspiracies initiated by the real enemy: Jewish New World Order reptilians https://www.bitchute.com/hashtag/trump/ https://www.bitchute.com/hashtag/trump/
- a1369209993 8y ago
  The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that there's a inexaustable supply of blatantly evil assholes for oppressive laws to be first aimed at and establish precedent against; by the time they come for you, everyone is too desensitised to care.
- 8nd9rfi 8y ago
  It's ironic that you are alluding to the quote by pastor Martin Niemöller that was making a point completely opposite to yours. Free speech is not about protecting popular opinions. I cannot believe how many comments hostile to free speech are on this thread. It's almost like people are begging for oppression.
  - notahacker 8y ago
    I have a sneaking suspicion that Niemöller was admonishing his past self and German intellectuals in general for thinking Naziism was something that could be accommodated and compromised with if it didn't affect them directly, not admonishing those corporations that declined to publish their propaganda...
  - spookthesunset 8y ago
    > I cannot believe how many comments hostile to free speech are on this thread It's almost like what is being discussed has nothing to do with free speech. BitChute didn't have its free speech rights harmed in any way. No jack booted government thugs pointed their guns at the owners faces and told them to unplug from the internet. All that happened is their current payment provider determined that their business relationship wasn't profitable and terminated the business relationship. BitChute is free to find another way to seek payment.
    - apostacy 8y ago
      > It's almost like what is being discussed has nothing to do with free speech. BitChute didn't have its free speech rights harmed in any way. No jack booted government thugs pointed their guns at the owners faces and told them to unplug from the internet. Jack booted thugs most certainly will point guns at anyone who tries setting up a payment processing system to compete with the company that blocked them. > All that happened is their current payment provider determined that their business relationship wasn't profitable and terminated the business relationship. BitChute is free to find another way to seek payment. BitChute is NOT free to find another way to seek payment, because of a state-enforced monopoly on the payment market. It would be like if your water company decided to cut off water to your house, to compel you to stop speaking, at the behest of activists. Sure, you're "free" to carry buckets of fresh water to your house, I suppose. No, this is not some business decision, this is systematic economic pressure intended to coerce someone into silence. And frankly I think it is good grounds for a RICO case.
- apostacy 8y ago
  Twitter enshrines the most vile antisemitism out there[1]. Right after the Pittsburgh shooting, Twitter reviewed Farrakhan's comments where he called Jews "termites", and gave him the all clear. What makes Twitter far worse than Gab is that Twitter actually took the time to have a human review it, and gave it the green light. Gab at least is not attempting to police its content. That makes Twitter much worse. This is all hypocrisy. The "outrage" of Gab is completely fake. There is no legitimate argument against Gab that does not include Twitter. [1]: https://www.ajc.com/news/national/twitter-won-suspend-louis-farrakhan-after-tweet-comparing-jews-termites/F6Sy2kTB6H9oV8skJVfckL/ https://www.ajc.com/news/national/twitter-won-suspend-louis-...
  - notahacker 8y ago
    I mean, I'm far from the biggest fan of Twitter's ludicrously inconsistent moderation policy, but their raison d'etre isn't signal-boosting the far right (actively from their own social media accounts as well as passively from running an unmoderated forum) and they don't gloat about how synagogue shootings affect their traffic.

IAmEveryone 8y ago

How exactly are goat and whatever bitchute is saving us from Trump turning totalitarian? As opposed to, you know, the New York Times or even the Supreme Court.

notahacker 8y ago

First they came for the Gab, and... I was actually pretty pleased because I didn't think the sort of web host that would stand behind forums run by the sort of people that gloated about how many hits their association with a synagogue shooting brought them were actually potential allies in fighting fascism... Bitchute isn't the home of people posting Trump critiques. It's the home of people explaining why all criticisms of Trump must be dismissed as conspiracies initiated by the real enemy: Jewish New World Order reptilians https://www.bitchute.com/hashtag/trump/ https://www.bitchute.com/hashtag/trump/

a1369209993 8y ago
The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that there's a inexaustable supply of blatantly evil assholes for oppressive laws to be first aimed at and establish precedent against; by the time they come for you, everyone is too desensitised to care.
8nd9rfi 8y ago
It's ironic that you are alluding to the quote by pastor Martin Niemöller that was making a point completely opposite to yours. Free speech is not about protecting popular opinions. I cannot believe how many comments hostile to free speech are on this thread. It's almost like people are begging for oppression.
- notahacker 8y ago
  I have a sneaking suspicion that Niemöller was admonishing his past self and German intellectuals in general for thinking Naziism was something that could be accommodated and compromised with if it didn't affect them directly, not admonishing those corporations that declined to publish their propaganda...
- spookthesunset 8y ago
  > I cannot believe how many comments hostile to free speech are on this thread It's almost like what is being discussed has nothing to do with free speech. BitChute didn't have its free speech rights harmed in any way. No jack booted government thugs pointed their guns at the owners faces and told them to unplug from the internet. All that happened is their current payment provider determined that their business relationship wasn't profitable and terminated the business relationship. BitChute is free to find another way to seek payment.
  - apostacy 8y ago
    > It's almost like what is being discussed has nothing to do with free speech. BitChute didn't have its free speech rights harmed in any way. No jack booted government thugs pointed their guns at the owners faces and told them to unplug from the internet. Jack booted thugs most certainly will point guns at anyone who tries setting up a payment processing system to compete with the company that blocked them. > All that happened is their current payment provider determined that their business relationship wasn't profitable and terminated the business relationship. BitChute is free to find another way to seek payment. BitChute is NOT free to find another way to seek payment, because of a state-enforced monopoly on the payment market. It would be like if your water company decided to cut off water to your house, to compel you to stop speaking, at the behest of activists. Sure, you're "free" to carry buckets of fresh water to your house, I suppose. No, this is not some business decision, this is systematic economic pressure intended to coerce someone into silence. And frankly I think it is good grounds for a RICO case.
apostacy 8y ago
Twitter enshrines the most vile antisemitism out there[1]. Right after the Pittsburgh shooting, Twitter reviewed Farrakhan's comments where he called Jews "termites", and gave him the all clear. What makes Twitter far worse than Gab is that Twitter actually took the time to have a human review it, and gave it the green light. Gab at least is not attempting to police its content. That makes Twitter much worse. This is all hypocrisy. The "outrage" of Gab is completely fake. There is no legitimate argument against Gab that does not include Twitter. [1]: https://www.ajc.com/news/national/twitter-won-suspend-louis-farrakhan-after-tweet-comparing-jews-termites/F6Sy2kTB6H9oV8skJVfckL/ https://www.ajc.com/news/national/twitter-won-suspend-louis-...
- notahacker 8y ago
  I mean, I'm far from the biggest fan of Twitter's ludicrously inconsistent moderation policy, but their raison d'etre isn't signal-boosting the far right (actively from their own social media accounts as well as passively from running an unmoderated forum) and they don't gloat about how synagogue shootings affect their traffic.