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The fact that you're talking about Terminal and not iTerm makes this whole story very suspect, or at least puts you into a category of "people who never really

The fact that you're talking about Terminal and not iTerm makes this whole story very suspect, or at least puts you into a category of "people who never really tried to get the most out of their MacOS experience". In any event, thanks for your anecdote.

madmax96 8y ago
IMHO iTerm isn't all that great. I have problems with common keyboard shortcuts that work in every other *nix terminal emulator (eg forward over word). The response seems to be "just redefine these keyboard shortcuts yourself!" What exactly does iTerm do that makes you regard it better than Terminal?
- diminoten 8y ago
  Input broadcast, for one. Insane customizability for another -- I have scripts that, in 1 click, can SSH me to all hosts for a service (dozens). That's super valuable.
  - sershe 8y ago
    The fact that you're talking about SSHing into dozen hosts and not e.g. pssh makes this whole story very suspect, or at least puts you into a category of "people who never really tried to get the most out of their terminal experience" :P
    - diminoten 8y ago
      Definitely true, but I'm not on here defending the merits of the terminal! I'll check out pssh. The cool thing about iTerm input broadcasting is you can turn it on and off rapidly, so you can start out broadcasting, stop for a sec to adjust one host, then resume. pssh looks like you'd have to establish a separate connection.
sershe 8y ago
I don't really care much for bells and whistles around the command line, as long as the command line is good (which it is, because it's Unix - I just wish they'd stop making changes so it won't crash). Yeah, I never really tried to get much out of my Mac OS "experience" because I just want the OS to allow me to find stuff and launch stuff. I found most UI (well, not UI itself but various UI features) outside of actual applications (e.g. the IDE) plain annoying, just like the same crap in Windows 10. Spotlight is on par with Windows 10 search. Finder is worse but more or less the same. However, I do want my monitor to stop blinking from 2560 to 1920 for no reason, and my terminal from crashing, and to stop saying "hey I can't hear you, kill coreaudiod" in meetings. And actually come think of it, it would be nice to open files from non-open dialogs (I don't know why the context menu in dialogs cannot just be a normal context menu ), and also can I not have the thing where the files created on the date that is after the date the app was opened, show up in "No Date" section at the bottom of its open/save/etc dialogs, when grouped by date? That's really annoying when you want to attach a latest file.

madmax96 8y ago

IMHO iTerm isn't all that great. I have problems with common keyboard shortcuts that work in every other *nix terminal emulator (eg forward over word). The response seems to be "just redefine these keyboard shortcuts yourself!" What exactly does iTerm do that makes you regard it better than Terminal?

diminoten 8y ago
Input broadcast, for one. Insane customizability for another -- I have scripts that, in 1 click, can SSH me to all hosts for a service (dozens). That's super valuable.
- sershe 8y ago
  The fact that you're talking about SSHing into dozen hosts and not e.g. pssh makes this whole story very suspect, or at least puts you into a category of "people who never really tried to get the most out of their terminal experience" :P
  - diminoten 8y ago
    Definitely true, but I'm not on here defending the merits of the terminal! I'll check out pssh. The cool thing about iTerm input broadcasting is you can turn it on and off rapidly, so you can start out broadcasting, stop for a sec to adjust one host, then resume. pssh looks like you'd have to establish a separate connection.

sershe 8y ago

I don't really care much for bells and whistles around the command line, as long as the command line is good (which it is, because it's Unix - I just wish they'd stop making changes so it won't crash). Yeah, I never really tried to get much out of my Mac OS "experience" because I just want the OS to allow me to find stuff and launch stuff. I found most UI (well, not UI itself but various UI features) outside of actual applications (e.g. the IDE) plain annoying, just like the same crap in Windows 10. Spotlight is on par with Windows 10 search. Finder is worse but more or less the same. However, I do want my monitor to stop blinking from 2560 to 1920 for no reason, and my terminal from crashing, and to stop saying "hey I can't hear you, kill coreaudiod" in meetings. And actually come think of it, it would be nice to open files from non-open dialogs (I don't know why the context menu in dialogs cannot just be a normal context menu ), and also can I not have the thing where the files created on the date that is after the date the app was opened, show up in "No Date" section at the bottom of its open/save/etc dialogs, when grouped by date? That's really annoying when you want to attach a latest file.