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> it would be a lot better from a financial point of view for a poor person to purchase a 15-year old 1,000 pound Vauxhall Corsa Are you sure about that? Are y

> it would be a lot better from a financial point of view for a poor person to purchase a 15-year old 1,000 pound Vauxhall Corsa Are you sure about that? Are you taking into account petrol, maintenance (a 15-year old car will need a lot of it), parking, insurance, registration fees? Those would cost at least another GBP 100/month + unproductive time spent in traffic. Not to mention the poor person would first need to save up GBP 1000 to be able to afford the car (or pay interest and more insurance). GBP 200/month for a transport pass sounds insane though, so maybe they should focus on funding that better.

ghaff 8y ago
>GBP 200/month for a transport pass Seems pretty normal depending upon the type of transport covered. If I bought monthly passes to commute into Boston from my house, I'd be something like $600/month between commuter rail, commuter rail parking, and subway/bus. Driving to subway parking (which fills up by 7 something) would still cost something $100/month plus about $10/day for parking. Commuting into most big cities in the West isn't cheap even if you use public transportation.
- icebraining 8y ago
  Still sounds expensive. You can take a train + bus/tram/subway from Waterloo to central Brussels for about $125/month. A bus pass in Luxembourg to the city center costs like $30/month. Lisbon will cap all public transport passes (even multi-modal) to $50/month, or $100/month for a whole family.
esotericn 8y ago
A bus pass is 80 GBP / month. The fares for outer zones on the Tube are deliberately expensive as a way to reduce demand. There are explicit discounts for avoiding Zone 1 to ease congestion. So whilst there probably do exist people spending 200 GBP a month on transport on minimum wage, it's not really intended, more of an ephemeral state whilst someone finds a job closer to home. Funnily enough, London's public transport is actually pretty _cheap_ when compared with e.g. intercity rail. It's only expensive when compared with other countries, and I think it's difficult to compare due to London's high CoL in general and the age of the network. The walk-up prices for trains are basically robbery. If it's outside of the Oyster zone, you're either driving, booking it well in advance, or it's a business trip so you take the hit anyway.
notahacker 8y ago
London's the most expensive place in the world to park during working hours, to the point where parking space sharing sites are advertising "from £11 per day" to entice people in. Street parking is upwards of £5 per hour. Obviously there are some companies with parking spaces of their own, but companies with parking spaces in the restricted areas of central London aren't giving them to employees they don't pay enough for them to afford public transport. You're unlikely to be poor or limited in your transport options if you've got resident's parking in the Congestion Charge zone either

ghaff 8y ago

>GBP 200/month for a transport pass Seems pretty normal depending upon the type of transport covered. If I bought monthly passes to commute into Boston from my house, I'd be something like $600/month between commuter rail, commuter rail parking, and subway/bus. Driving to subway parking (which fills up by 7 something) would still cost something $100/month plus about $10/day for parking. Commuting into most big cities in the West isn't cheap even if you use public transportation.

icebraining 8y ago
Still sounds expensive. You can take a train + bus/tram/subway from Waterloo to central Brussels for about $125/month. A bus pass in Luxembourg to the city center costs like $30/month. Lisbon will cap all public transport passes (even multi-modal) to $50/month, or $100/month for a whole family.

esotericn 8y ago

A bus pass is 80 GBP / month. The fares for outer zones on the Tube are deliberately expensive as a way to reduce demand. There are explicit discounts for avoiding Zone 1 to ease congestion. So whilst there probably do exist people spending 200 GBP a month on transport on minimum wage, it's not really intended, more of an ephemeral state whilst someone finds a job closer to home. Funnily enough, London's public transport is actually pretty _cheap_ when compared with e.g. intercity rail. It's only expensive when compared with other countries, and I think it's difficult to compare due to London's high CoL in general and the age of the network. The walk-up prices for trains are basically robbery. If it's outside of the Oyster zone, you're either driving, booking it well in advance, or it's a business trip so you take the hit anyway.

notahacker 8y ago

London's the most expensive place in the world to park during working hours, to the point where parking space sharing sites are advertising "from £11 per day" to entice people in. Street parking is upwards of £5 per hour. Obviously there are some companies with parking spaces of their own, but companies with parking spaces in the restricted areas of central London aren't giving them to employees they don't pay enough for them to afford public transport. You're unlikely to be poor or limited in your transport options if you've got resident's parking in the Congestion Charge zone either